• MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world
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    For those of you contemplating ways of covering up the ads:

    This is the same airline that beat the shit out of that doctor because the airline overbooked the flight. For your own safety, do not cross this airline.

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      The Chicago Department of Aviation did that. The same way if the police ends up killing someone, it was not the person calling the police.

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        United was booting passengers to make room for employee transfers though, the situation was shit before dept of aviation even got the call.

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          Those employees could have stood. Frontier and Spirit give vouchers out when they intentionally overbook…which before the pandemic was everyday. If nobody takes the bait, they up the voucher value. For them it’s essentially monopoly money.

          If United couldn’t get anybody to bite at the vouchers, then the employees should have stood the whole flight. Instead, they beat a man who was not fighting back physically. He only insisted that he get to his patient. They LITERALLY dragged him off the plane. By his ankle, as he tried to grab onto anything he could.

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            If United couldn’t get anybody to bite at the vouchers, then the employees should have stood the whole flight.

            Yeah, that is not a solution. The FAA is salivating at the thought of this. Everyone must have a seat for takeoff and landing.

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          Sure, but telling someone to leave their plane for some oddball reason is “only bad” not outright crazy like what happened then.

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        it was not the person calling the police.

        At this point anyone calling the police in the US is a necessary accomplice, and guilty of conspiracy to commit murder, aggravated battery, and probably several other crimes.

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      Overbooking should be a mandatory minimum compensation of the greater of 1000x the ticket price or $20k. It’s a truly fucked up practice to disrespect people’s time like that.

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        “If you don’t like it don’t fly”

        Seriously just shut up.

        Edit: LMAO just saw your other comment where you actually said this sincerely. You’re a parody of yourself.

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        Have you ever turned a screen off on one of these planes? They turn back on. So you turn them off again. Sooner or later, they turn back on. And repeat.

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            I don’t think you’re being beaten up for it. I certainly am not beating you up for it. But usually, yeah, the screen does come back on during the flight. I think they turn it back on automatically every time there’s an announcement. As somebody who finds screens like that very distracting and even migraine-inducing (the “busyness” of that sort of thing is a big trigger), it’s really frustrating.

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            People like you constantly give corporations an inch because “it’s not a big deal” and here we are.

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            7 months ago

            Depends on the plane and system it has. Last United flight I was on it stayed off the entire flight. I use my phone and generally don’t look at it anyway but it was nicer I suppose.

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            I honestly couldn’t care less how many adverts they show me, they can have a constant stream of adverts the whole flight if it means that some shitty corporation is paying a portion of my travel coats.

            People really need to grow up about stuff like this, if you don’t want adverts then pay for a premium service - I’m poor, I’ll accept the adverts.

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              That money isn’t subsidizing your flight cost, it’s increasing corporate profits.

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              Here’s the thing: companies have learned they can add ads to make additional money without passing any of that on to their customers.

              If you think you’re going to get a better rate for having ads, you’re fooling yourself. They’ll always charge as much as they can get people to pay and that amount isn’t affected by ads most of the time.

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                This is thinking based on emotion not reality, most of the internet is free because of adverts so your belief that it’s not used to lower prices is clearly silly. Yes companies love profit but they often increase profits by lowering prices to attract more business, it’s a perfectly valid business model to use adverts to reduce the cost to the customer and increase customer volume.

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          You can, there’s a button combo. It changes sometimes but if you spam a few things I can always black it out

          But that’s not the point, it still sucks

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    This should count as violation of human rights. You’re chained to the seat for hours and have no other option than look at this screen or force your eyes closed. Holy shit, people should get really mad. Flashing ads on a screen you don’t look at directly are still very annoying, even if you look on your phone.

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      I need to start a business selling rectangular shaped covers for these displays. I’ll even make one that serves as a holder for an iPad, so you can substitute your own screen.

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        I fold the flight safety manual and hang it over the screen with a tab, inserted into the folding gap above the screen.

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        In my experience, that’s only temporary. The screen will always wake up again on United flights.

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                  Y’all behave like they put a gun up to your head and force you to watch them ads lmao.

                  It’s mental how the simple thought of maybe do something else than watch the ads is met with such hostility lmao.

                  You know what doesn’t have ads (yet, anyway)? Mother fucking books.

                  You know what you can take on a plane with you? A mother fucking book.

                  Read a book.

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    So I am going to sit down and the screen will be full of penis enlargement pills? What will all the hot singles in the area think?

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      I assume they won’t allow porns in ads, but you can still get worse stuff than porn, like erectile dysfunction medication ads which causes people around your seat to look at you with sorry eyes.

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        We tried that in the 80s already. Here’s how it went down.

        1980s comes along, and people had been seeing commercials on tv for years. So along comes this new concept. Now you can PAY to watch tv…without ads. GREAT!

        So people started paying for this new “cable tv”. Then the cable operators were like “I know they’re paying to not see ads…but what if we STILL showed ads, and STILL took their money???”

        So that happened.

        Then after some decades Netflix came around, originally with liscensed tv shows from all over tv…except now you could PAY to watch them, without the ads. And then they drastically lost their liscensed content, and produced their own original content.

        After a few decades, Netflix said “I know they’re paying not to see commercials…but what if we STARTED showing commercials, AND raised prices every few months.”

        Man, I can’t wait for the next guy to charge me money to not see ads. Only to inevitably show me ads a few years later…

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          What if I were to buy back all my own DVDs and watch them? Would I need to voluntarily show myself ads later?

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    More to consider when selecting an airline. Greedy fuckers, I hope their stock takes a nosedive thanks to this

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      It’ll probably take a small dip and then rise quite a bit once profits from implementing it start rolling in

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        Seriously. It’s nearly a sure thing. I should buy on Monday and see how it goes. People are sleepwalking about adtech shit so they’ll continue to fly United. There’s already a dude in this thread telling people to chill and just don’t fly if they don’t like it. The ad revenue should be pretty juicy, too. They have a bored captive audience identified by full name and credit card number.

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        And if it succesful, or at least passenger doesn’t boycott them over it, it is just a question of time until other airlines adds it as well

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      About a decade ago Fox News got brought to court, and had to defend themselves against the idea that their content wasn’t actually factually accurate most of the time. Therefore not “news”.

      Fox responded by saying that their program wasn’t meant to be news. I forget the exact quote, I’m sure duckduckgo is your friend, but it was along the lines of “No reasonable person would ever consume Fox News content and believe it to be trustworthy accurate news. It is an opinionated entertainment show about the news.”

      I don’t remember their tagline at the time, but it was something along the lines of “Fox News is your only outlet for unbiased news!” Something to that effect. I just remember Jon Stewart calling out the hypocrasy of their tagline being the exact opposite of what they said in court.

      If Fox News is entertainment meant to push the agenda that the right is right, and if CNN is entertainment meant to push the agenda that the left is right, then I don’t see why The Onion can’t join them as entertainment meant to push the agenda that the whole world is fucking stupid.

      Still operating as a “real news source”, except it’s all bullshit like Fox News and CNN. Just entertainment.

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    …that will now reflect the information United has compiled on individual travelers, like where they live and destinations they’ve traveled to.

    I, for one, can’t wait to have my personal info proudly displayed to whatever randos they seat next to me! /s

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          Shouldn’t be that far away from them in the first place if you actually cared.

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            This is fucking hilarious. Do you know that sometimes, people go elsewhere for economic opportunities? Then they bring their children after they get settled in?

            Sometimes they go back, and leave the children there.

            Do you think those kids should be stranded?

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                sometimes people don’t want to live in the middle of nowhere forever. not many engineering jobs there. we all want economic mobility too

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                  The ultimate quest for wealth is worth destroying the planet.

                  Also vast majority of people take planes for leisure, I’m sure we can deal without them. People used to travel the world in sail boats and they still managed to get where they wanted to go.

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    Including the opt out link in the announcement article is a good guy move on the writer’s part. Thanks, Kate. You’re a pal.

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      I requested opt out and they requested my ID. lol! So they’re demanding more info to opt out of info collection.

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        How are they going to identify who is opting out without being able to match it to the person in the seat…?

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          Your united data is going to be tied to an email. They could just use that. It’s reasonable to see this as further invasiveness, similar to Meta™ account recovery.

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    I already dislike the experience of being with other passengers on United. Nothing negative occurred on my part, just noticed how badly behaved other passengers were compared to every other airline I’ve flown.

    My point is, I wouldn’t pick United to fly as my first choice.

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    The thing I hate is that all these airline screens usually default to “on”, and people tend to leave defaults. I’m a tall person, and can usually see a large number of the screens in front of me. So if I’m on a night flight, even if I don’t intend to sleep, the only way to not be blinded by dozens of ads for a few hours is to bring a sleep mask.

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      I feel so bad for tall people on planes. It’s uncomfortable AF for all of us, but you guys have to become human origami just to sit. It’s insane that this shit is legal. I avoid flying as much as possible.

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        It’s uncomfortable AF for all of us

        Idk, I’m pretty comfortable on planes, and I’m around 5’8 lol

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        Also, ths taller you are, the more likely you are to be seriously injured in severe turbulence, malfunctions, minor crashes and major crashes.

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        I’m tall and fat it’s a double whammy. Granted one I’ve done to myself, luckily I generally only fly with my wife so I can get the isle seat to stretch

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      They also automatically turn the screens back on repeatedly after you turn them off.

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    Nothing that some Self Adhesive Vinyl can’t fix. They’ll have to deal with getting it off the screen afterwards too. Want to fine me for it? Then tell me where you got the data, because I didn’t consent to you having my data.

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      Calling into United:

      Hey I see you charged me $400 for a replacement screen? Tell me, where did you buy the targeted ad data you used to display ads on that screen? Oh, an agency that I signed terms and conditions for at some point? Shit, alright then.

      I mean, fuck United tho and they will not be getting and damn money from me.

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        In david and goliath, david won. In the tortoise and the hare, the tortoise won. Rey Mysterio vs the 2006 Royal Rumble, Rey Mysterio won.

        Hmmmm, you may be onto something!