In this heeadline: Neuralink’s Competitor Recieves Prototype
in this thread: Gabe Crazy
This is the new tech that will justify Half Life 3 they were talking about in the doc. It all makes sense now, the ultimate controller!
Who is controlled though?
I want to get one of the first implants possible. VR headsets are so unsightly.
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I like that vision of future (implants are cool, neural interfaces can be useful), but I’d also like our world to stop and think a bit at every stage.
Solve the global network (note how I’m not saying “global computer network”, because I don’t think so, ideally we’d still have global analog commutated channel network as the base level), web of hypertext documents, universal applications and personal computing problems sufficiently well first. Then go to brain implants.
It’s like combat drones, using them with optical cables for communication is better than with radio, turns out. That’s the current way.
Would be good if for computing we’d figure out ways better than war to remove delusions.
They should make a big facility to test the implants
Maybe have an AI overseer, they could name it Gladys
Yperating System?
You’d need people to solve puzzles to really put the implant through its paces. Something involving blocks should be sufficiently simple to play around with while having lots of variation.
Props to him for trying it himself instead of having someone else do it and take all the risk
Valve CEO Gabe Newell pretends to get a hole drilled into his head for a brain-computer interface.
I know the internet lives the guy but no. Just no.
As someone losing control of their hands and enjoys playing video games, I very much look forward to this technology not only being available via Elon Musk.
The use of the fingers is covered under our monthly plan of $49.99
If you would like thumbs included, that is covered under our premium plan of $499.99 a day.
And I see that but a game developer is not the right type of business to develop these kind of extremely intrusive and potentially dangerous accessibility devices. We need much stricter guidelines and oversight for this kind of tech before they essentially become a remote control for parts of our brain.
Some people are starting to wake up to the fact that the guy is just another libertarian billionaire, he just happens to be in charge of a company that made a product people love enough to give them monopolistic powers.
Edit: these people aren’t in this thread
Edit 2: first edit was from when the votes on that comment were at -8, happy to see that for once one of my comments on this subject ends up in the positives
It’s been known for quite a while now. Even reddit gets annoyed with the guy.
I even got to downvote that back then!
You’re not wrong, the downvoters are just sad because you are right. Just takes one personality shift from Gabe to turn him from beloved figurehead to shitty billionaire and being reminded of that sucks.
“one personality shift”
That’s everyone dude. “Bernie Sanders is one personality shift away from being a Maga tech bro.”
Entirely correct. That’s why we shouldn’t put anyone on a pedestal.
He’s also one body shift away from being a giant dragon with adamantium scales…
They’re right next to each other on the monster table.
Eat the Meat!
Sanders doesn’t have control over (probably) thousands of the games you “own” or, if we’re honest, the PC gaming market as a whole.
I think despite the claims that Gabe is a Libertarian, first spread by some blogger named Yanis V(?), are floating around the internet: he rarely makes a political statement but did endorse Joe Biden over Trump lending to the idea that he is NOT some sort of anarcho-syndicalist Republican-lite.
Pretty sure Musk has had a significant shift. Not saying he started out as a nice normal guy, but something cracked for sure.
We also spend dramatically more now as well and are on an unsustainable path according to the Fed.
People want more spending and less taxes though, as its human nature.
If you just pay attention more than the average person you quickly realize that he’s already a shitty billionaire.
Steam underage gambling profits him directly.
He owns a yacht collection while his clients can’t afford to own the place they live in. How’s that for an environmental impact?
His reaction to George Floyd’s murder wasn’t that Valve should release a statement as he considered that problematic (source), instead he gave each employee 10k to spend however they felt like. Where I used to work we used to call that a “shut the fuck up”. Employees are complaining about something? Here’s 10k each for them to shut the fuck up. Hell, they could spend that money to finance far right groups if they wanted, Newell didn’t care!
Women employees with managerial positions at Valve? What women employees?
Valve takes a 30% cut but Newell is a billionaire, which means they could afford to take a much smaller cut, he could have hundreds of millions instead and the devs could have more money in their pockets.
I always get shat on for saying they do unregulated gambling, including to minors
People be really defending Valve
People be really defending Valve
They defend Microsoft and Windows for the same reason. It’s their beloved gaming platform
I think being on a tech community instead of the gaming ones helps
Eh, probably. They always state how competitors do this and that, and all the good Valve brought with Steam.
Which is true, but they’re blinded by this. Google also brought a lot of good, and bad.
I’m not even sure if it’s love. When something is all you’ve known, you just view everything else as strange and inferior. When you have so many games and have had so many experiences on Steam, the cognitive dissonance of accepting that Valve is quite problematic could be hard to bear. Knowing that everybody around you praises Steam, with many turning to rage or even harassment when they see competitors like Epic, the fear of being ostracized and ending up in the same position as those competitors is also a strong factor at play.
As long as theres no wifi and its to solve medical issues, why not? Better than trusting a nazi.
Valve enabling Nazis on Steam is about as good as being a Nazi. If this is the first time you’re hearing about the problem, search for “steam nazi” via your favorite search engine and you’ll get some pretty good results among the first.
“The non WiFi versions cost more and are not supported by most insurance.”
- from the future
not “no wifi”. It’s “no any kind of wireless connections” and even then I’ll say no.
Digital onboard data processing and spike detection allows the device to operate via low-bandwidth wireless interfaces.
It also receives power wirelessly so probably going to be the only option.
not “no wifi”. It’s “no any kind of wireless connections” and even then I’ll say no.
Not advocating for our against but 2 thoughts here:
1: Gabe isn’t Musk. Yes money etc but don’t immediately jump there without other malfeasance please. Caution absolutely but don’t ascribe one rich assholes shit to another.
2: He probably has hard data on accessibility… Possibly more than nearly anyone else. There’s a HUGE portion of the population that can’t use “traditional” controllers or other input devices. And that’s not even going into the medical realm.
Could game Gabe be starting his villain phase? Sure! But until more negative details come out I’m just hoping this is investments he’d use toward a new steam controller.
let’s not circlejerk and have a soft spot for a billionaire just because you like video games. why give gaben the benefit of the doubt just because you think steam is a good product? if they’re a billionaire doing this, we can assume this is a money making venture.
if you’re a billionaire, you’re already way into your villain phase. he’s not musk, but he’s one of them. you don’t make a billion dollars. you take a billion dollars.
Billionaires either inherit their money or get it by being an asshole. Being nice doesn’t make people billionaires.
The billionaires today have an opportunity to eliminate world hunger yet they don’t. Instead, they fly rocketships, sail on giant yachts and buy island compounds or towns in Texas. So yeah, No one at that RB club is going to win a Nobel Peace Prize. They all suck.
There are a few exceptions. JK Rowlings became a billionaire simply by writing some really popular books, and even stopped being a billionaire by giving much of her wealth away. As far as I can tell, she didn’t become an asshole until later.
I bet she was always an asshole, she just hid it from the general public.
There is literally no evidence of that other than tankie memes.
I am ready for my 99999 downvotes and insults for not going with the propaganda. Nothing prevents someone for eventually saving up billion by making a good product in todays digital age. Nothing requires you to be evil. Countries having shit tax policies that do not get the full benefit of having hyper rich is a country policy issue. Killing people is not the solution, change in policies is.
nah. you need to be pretty fucking terrible to build a business where your share of it is worth a billion dollars. you do so by cheating your customers, employees, and competition. valve is no exception.
there are plenty of companies out there that pay their employees decently, make good products, and compete fairly. those companies usually aren’t worth that much and their leaders aren’t making a billion dollars from it. you’re right that the tax policies are shit, but it’s not like you ever accidentally become a billionaire. you do so by cheating the tax system too and screwing the general public.
and nobody said anything about killing people.
So, you are reading things I didn’t write. I’m not defending him about steam games etc… The only good will here about any of it is the work toward better Linux life.
I agree billionaires shouldn’t exist.
I don’t like steam.
I don’t really do much gaming… And it’s worth stuff from GOG.
Chill out. I’m not the fanboi you are looking for.
I’m only saying perhaps he sees $$$ in a venture that is rife with much worse people doing far worse to vulnerable people.
On the off chance better access comes about from rich assholes eating each other, I’m game to at least watch.
I’m not. your post is literally saying we should be nicer to him because he’s not Elon. you’re saying we should be easy on him because he might be doing some good. I’m saying we shouldn’t.
No. “Don’t immediately assume he’s doing the same exact evil” is not the same as “be nicer”.
At the least, it’s “assume other bad motives perhaps”.
My thought is this is just another way to milk money from others. That simple. Not “let’s bribe govts”.
If it’s assumed he’s doing the exact same as Musk, then we either prepare to undo the damage incorrectly, or waste time looking at the wrong stooge.
you’re quoting yourself but you never said that. you said maybe Gabe could be entering his villain phase, as if he’s not there yet. thus implying you meant he’s not a villain, so we shouldn’t assume the worse. I get what you say now, but you did not say what you meant in your original comment.
I’m willing to say more positive things about him. His dedication to Linux is great of course, but I’ve also heard that people working for him get a lot of freedom to choose what to work on. And no crunch. In the games industry, that’s pretty good.
So yeah, he seems to me to be one of the better among the tech billionaires. But in the end, he’s still a billionaire, and he’s god that ridiculous fleet of super yachts.
First step to getting away with shithead behavior is convincing a group, any group (but preferrably one marginalized), that you’re representing them.
Idk, there are tons of good things that have happened from rich people doing stuff. Hell, that’s the reason medicine progressed — if nobles weren’t terrified of dying, who knows how long it would have taken to figure out that bloodletting with leeches doesn’t work?
I don’t think I need to point out all the bad things that have happened because of the rich.
Not saying represent by any stretch.
If I need X thing to survive, I’d rather get it from a pure and innocent source… If that’s not possible, I’d rather it from the dude with too many boats who charges too much money than the one actively gloating about destroying lives literally and on a much higher scale.
Yes I know lesser evil etc… This isn’t a philosophy course and I don’t need what they’re selling. But many do potentially and I’d rather minimize damage than just let the absolute worst be the default.
I respect that, I just try to provide context. It’s often misinterpreted, and I do succumb to emotional responses — but my goal is to make sure those that are justified approach their goals with a clear mind.
I’m not advocating for the rich. I just want people to make the right decisions when it inevitably comes to the point where we need to decide what to do with the rich. I don’t think we should treat GabeN with any more respect than we owe the poorest person, is all.
You don’t get to be a billionaire without some malfeasance.
And even if you don’t assume actively malicious intent like you should with Musk, there’s a lot of potential danger with technology like this, and if you don’t stand a lot to gain, and have reasonable controls against things going wrong, it’s probably not a good idea to be an early adopter. It’s just like a pacemaker, there are a narrow segment of people who should want to test a new model/concept for them.
Absolutely agree at every part.
My desire would be strong regulation via a real agency (not current US), or alternatively ONLY work via non-intrusive means on the scalp.
Yeah, if we were putting billionaires against the wall, GabeN would probably be near the end of the line.
There was a time the same was true for Elon Musk, before he suddenly decided to jump the queue. I really hope Gabe isn’t going down that path.
Gabe spends a lot of time at sea since the pandemic, and kinda comes off like he has some soft libertarian vibes about self sufficiency and governance.
For me? He’s human and rich. It’s reason enough to be suspicious.
Would I get it? I won’t be first, that’s all I know.
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Surely using the word tankie as an insult, without understanding what it is nominates yourself for the wall.
Tankies want to advertise technocrasses not punish them.
That will be awesome for when my body dies, but I still want to be a brain in a jar playing MechWarrior.
How the hell is this not the Onion?
isn’t the verge the same as the onion?
Nah, the verge is less credible
I was sure it must be. Is it not? Gosh.
TIL Valve is into brain chips.
As far as I can see the company behind it (Starfish Neuroscience) is not affiliated with Valve in any way? (Aside from having the same CEO)
And Newell is Valve because it’s his private company
To be fair, I think it’s specifically Gabe who’s been obsessed with brain computer interfaces for the past many years. Obviously it’s his company, so Valve by extension participates.
Makes sense, as you get older you get more and more disgusted by the weakness of your flesh, and tend to crave the certainty of steel.
The Valve Deckard was a little more ambitious than had been originally anticipated.
"Alright, the implantation surgery was a success, now all we have to do is fire up the remote activation. Throwing the switch in three… two…
Valve bros dont need to worry about what happens in life after gaben, because I think gaben is going to ascend to cyberspace before the end.
Him and Kurzweil just hanging out on the same subnet.
Portal 2 was a road map
That’s… Not a very promising roadmap…
