• minorkeys@lemmy.world
    517·
    19 小时前

    Stuff like this makes women seem incredibly judgemental, while also demanding to not be judged.

  • seemefeelme@infosec.pub
    411·
    1 天前

    Joker poster beside other comic book posters: Stay, they’re probably cool. Joker poster beside grindset posters: Refer to counselling and taxi home. Joker poster beside Joker 2019 Poster: RUN TO FUCK

  • Allonzee@lemmy.world
    82·
    23 小时前

    If you don’t love me at my nerdiest, you don’t deserve me at my I get off eating my partner out.

    • Beastimus@slrpnk.netEnglish
      6·
      17 小时前

      There’s nerd and then there’s Thanos grindset nerd. I do not acknowledge the latter as being a true subset of the former.

      Edit: It was bothering me so I have to point out that I’m making a No True Scotsman Fallacy here. This does not change my statement.

      • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
        2·
        13 小时前

        No. Grindset nerds are a cancer that must be excised for the health of the community.

        Like the kind of nerd that would let autocorrect replace excised with exercised.

        • Beastimus@slrpnk.netEnglish
          1·
          2 小时前

          I agree with you, but I can’t recognize that I’m using a fallacy and then let it go undisclosed. I’m that kind of nerd… But yes, burn them out of the community with fire or empathy, whichever strategy works fastest.

  • Rose@slrpnk.net
    4·
    22 小时前

    Joker poster
    Fight option

    She should don Catwoman costume, gently pummel the dude to submission, and say “How’s this for a BOTTOM TEXT”?

      • The Menemen!@lemmy.world
        79·
        10 小时前

        I must be way too old. Being a nice guy is bad? Fuck, I’ve been living under a rock. Is this about incense or this sigma thing?

        Edit: Lol, why the downvotes? You guys aren’t nice!

        • DeLacue@lemmy.world
          18·
          19 小时前

          Being a nice person isn’t bad but “nice guy” is a term for someone who presents themselves as nice and polite (but only to people they’re attracted to) and expects romantic attention in return for being nice. Basically, they think the fact that they put so much effort into being nice they deserve that romantic attention. They’ll often talk about how nice they are.

          Of course, anyone who needs to repeatedly tell you they are nice tend not be.

          • CoolMatt@lemmy.ca
            61·
            18 小时前

            This, and, speaking for myself, I once thought that’s literally how you attract someone because that’s what my mom taught me. “be nice to women, find a nice girl, ???, marriage.” in that order. But I was nice to everyone, not just people I liked.

            The one time I ever talked about how nice I thought I was, was when I was 18 and the girl I liked called me creepy when I was being nice to her all the time showering her with compliments and ttying to hang out with her. I went on this little rant, out of frustration, on FB in a status update about how women were bitches for not liking me and calling me creepy when I’ve just been trying to he nice to them. Yeah, at that point, that status update wasn’t exaclty being nice to anyone.

            Actually that was probably when I took a look at myself and realized just being nice isn’t gonna cut it, and my mom’s advice was shit. THEEEEEN, a few years later I heard about Nice Guys™

            It’s okay I’m now 32 and I have seen the light, it’s just took me until a couple years ago to figure it all out

          • The Menemen!@lemmy.world
            64·
            9 小时前

            Ok. Thx. I am not from the US and in my 40s. This whole thing of labeling people into categories is somewhat foreign to me. I mean my generation over here did this as well to a degree (and I admit I never got it), but it appears this has become much more dominant thin (at least at the other side of the pacific).

            I also tend to aggressively ignore things I deam stupid. But my children will be teenagers soo, guess I’ll have to put some time into researching these kind of things.

        • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
          131·
          19 小时前

          You apparently have been living under a rock because there is a world of difference between someone who is nice and also a guy and someone being a “nice guy”.

          Also the posters are red flags not because they reference nerdy things but because they show an unhealthy obsession with fictional characters who, though charismatic, are evil people who justify their violent actions with straw man arguments about power and corruption. The words on the Thanos poster put an especially fine point on that part.

      • drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world
        41·
        1 天前

        It’s true. A lot of my favorite movies are considered red flags just because enough dude bro dipshits misinterpret them.

        • tobis@lemm.ee
          4·
          21 小时前

          While I disagree with your gender-oriented spin on this completely, and I don’t think it’s nearly as common as the picture you paint (never heard anyone roasted for liking Fight Club), it does occasionally happen.

          I watched the first few episodes of MLP: FIM at a friend’s house by happenstance, and within about a week of airing I told a few people “Surprisingly, it’s actually a pretty good show.” Then the controversial fans came out and I completely stopped talking about the show to protect myself. Literal years later I found out my mom had been loudly proclaiming to anyone who would listen, including distant family, that I was a “brony”. It soured a few tenuous relationships with people who didn’t know me well enough to know it was an absurd label.

            • theolodis@feddit.org
              7·
              24 小时前

              I’ve never heard of Fight club being a red flag. Probably it could be one if you’re overly obsessed with the movie, and express it with a focus on the toxic masculine parts of the movie, but in that case the issue is you being a red flag.

              • andros_rex@lemmy.world
                4·
                24 小时前

                Some people do consider it a red flag, because there are idiots who misinterpret the movie and enough of them that interpret it as pro “toxic masculinity” that it’s scared a few people off. (Kinda like how 2019 Joker is a great film, but enough weirdos think it’s an endorsement of their weird behaviors.)

                Like it’s a gay man’s satire of masculinity (and about the homoeroticism inherent to fascistic movements). It’s a joke. Notice how the narrator never wants to fuck Martha - that he spends late nights roaming, looking for other men to engage physically with. The fights are a cruising metaphor.

                Fincher makes it even more obvious with the casting. Like yeah Helena Bingham Carter is hot, but we’re all here to gawk at Edward Norton and Brad Pitt.

            • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
              6·
              24 小时前

              Those are insanely popular movies.

              I’ve only seen academic critique and of course more cerebral criticisms because of how they were reflections of their time, like many movies.

              If you had actual people in real life attack you for liking these movies, either you were being weird about them and not listening to someone’s academic takes because you don’t understand them or you met a nut. Otherwise I think it’s bullshit and you just wanna be oppressed for liking [POPULAR THING]

            • andros_rex@lemmy.world
              3·
              23 小时前

              How do you interpret and discuss Fight Club and Full Metal Jacket in conversation? I like both of these movies and have never had anyone respond negatively when I’ve discussed them.

              When you talk about Fight Club, are you talking about it in a way which might suggest you think fight clubs are a good idea?

              I’m trying to figure out who would have a problem with Full Metal Jacket.

              • drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world
                1·
                23 小时前

                It’s how other n people talk about it. They act like Hartman and Tyler were awesome bad asses and not the unhinged assholes they were.

                • andros_rex@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  23 小时前

                  If you talk about both of those movies in a way that acknowledges Sergeant Hartman and Tyler Durden are not people we should emulate, I don’t think many people would consider those red flags.

                  People who think that the those movies are red flags have probably met people who think that we are supposed to look up to those characters. If you make it clear that you are not one of those people, there’s not really a problem.

              • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
                4·
                23 小时前

                I’m trying to figure out who would have a problem with Full Metal Jacket.

                The same kind of person that would fuck somebody in the ass and not have the goddamn decency to give him a reach-around!

        • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
          92·
          21 小时前

          When people online are this vague and hand-wavy, you know 99% of the time they’re downplaying some really stupid stand they took about that something a date or friend didn’t like one fucking time and they can’t let it go.

          Or they don’t have friends at all, and just read all the manosphere self-victimization forums.

          Edit: he got lost down the menslib rabbit hole of over analyzing everything until reality itself loses meaning and you begin to think breathing is problematic to someone, somewhere.

          • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
            41·
            22 小时前

            Or they don’t want to deeply engage with something where everyone is shitting on them? Jeeze, you armchair psychologists are just as bad as Redditors…

            They’ve explained in other posts how they properly interpret Fight Club, yet here you are, assuming the worst.

    • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
      24·
      24 小时前

      That sounds exactly like what someone who once faced consequences for one particular thing would say.

      • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
        13·
        24 小时前

        He listed the highly inappropriate and unpopular movies that nobody ever heard of Full Metal Jacket and Fight Club.

        I think someone spends too much time reading posts on the internet.

        edit: i was right, yep, menslib subreddit reader.

        • easily3667@lemmus.orgEnglish
          5·
          24 小时前

          Oooh fight club? So edgy. That’s that indie flick with complete unknowns Brad Pitt and Edward Norton.

        • KingOfTheCouch@lemmy.ca
          5·
          23 小时前

          Like did you evolve your entire personality around the disturbing characters? Or did you watch them a couple times, quote a few lines here and there?

          There is a line and if you are worried people don’t like you anymore because of these movies you probably crossed into the former. The movies are not problematic, but unfortunately the way some people get into them is.

          To emphasize: This is not automatically your fault because you enjoyed watching a show.

          Media is full of things like this and there a few people that take fandom too far. They are characters and we are intended to hate the characters. Should we feel empathy as we watch their journey? Yes but empathy shouldn’t forgive the crimes they commit. We can feel a connection to their pain but take the lesson and instead of idolize, try to do better.

          • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
            5·
            22 小时前

            The workaholic sigma grindset BS is totally problematic, and definitely hints at the wrong kind of Joker idolization, though personally, I like a good warning of bad choices type character. The Joker could’ve been that if the sequel didn’t crap all over the very notion.

            It’s also why I (used to) like Rick from Rick and Morty. He’s a terrible, miserable person, despite being capable of almost literally anything. He’s a great warning that happiness doesn’t come from things or power, but personal choices and outlook.

      • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
        4·
        22 小时前

        I dunno’ about OP, but quite a few things become “problematic” purely by association with dinguses. Sure, the sigma workaholic crap is problematic by itself, but the new Joker movie (NOT the sequel) _ was_ actually a good movie. It was all the weirdos who turned him in to some idol that made it cringe. (kinda’ like in the movie, even though the character himself enjoyed the recognition)

        Personally, I tend to really like flawed characters or tragic back stories and whatnot, and he had both. They could have had a really awesome sequel to show why going down the path of idolatry would be a terrible one, but nooo they had to do a weird “musical” where it turns out he’s not even the joker. Too bad everyone else had to ruin it, even the creators, so I can kinda’ relate to things getting ruined by external forces.

        Kinda’ like the US getting fucked by Trump despite every effort to get everyone I know to vote otherwise… Or how people like Johny Somali are giving Americans an even worse reputation as tourists. Some things that are supposed to be good really do simply get ruined by others, because too many people are judgemental guilt-by-association assholes.

  • SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz
    55·
    1 天前

    This display used to be the first thing you would see when you walked into my home.

    The only reason I moved them was because I replaced them to make room for my two massive bearded dragon tanks. 😎

    Any future partner better match my energy LOL

  • jsomae@lemmy.ml
    323·
    2 天前

    a bit strange but I don’t really see the problem tbh. Are these references I’m not getting? I recognize joker and thanos.

    • 474D@lemmy.world
      633·
      2 天前

      The Thanos poster has been “alpha-male”-ified and the joker is a cringe incel reference. The fact you don’t know is a good thing.

        • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          23·
          1 天前

          Incels scorn society and the world for making them ugly, no powerful jawline, no American Pie sex adventures in high school, and no nice suits to wear to their minimum wage jobs. To incels, they are the forgotten scum of the earth.

          Well, The Joker is a film about an abused, poor, and lonely comedian getting his face kicked in by teenagers about a month before rising up, killing a late night tv host, and vengefully breaking Society down into chaos and misery.

          So, they just think The Joker makes them look cool. That’s really it. Every time they think about shooting up an elementary school, they also think about Arthur Fleck gunning down Murray Franklin.

        • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
          16·
          22 小时前

          The movie itself isn’t a problem, But the kind of person that fancies the joker and Thanos *as role models are. It’s one thing to appreciate the dark side it’s another to idolize it.

          The movies aren’t the problem.

        • Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
          81·
          1 天前

          Honestly I am somewhat confused too. I think the joker movie joker is kinda incel ref because he is kinda an incel and kinda hates women (I don’t remember the movie too well)

          That seems to be the dark knight joker tho. So idk.

          And honestly dark knight joker is amazing. Like I like the movie because the joker is a great villain in this movie.

          • Zetta@mander.xyz
            5·
            1 天前

            I don’t think the joker hated women at all in Joker. As far as I remember his attitude to both genders is the same.

          • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            6·
            1 天前

            I think even calling Phoenix’s Joker incel is bit of a stretch. I’ve also only seen it long ago in theater, but I recall there was only a small part his imagined romance but it was only small contributor or result of his mental issues, and his hate was more so on the people abusing him, didn’t really strike me as a woman hating incel in any way

            • Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
              3·
              1 天前

              I am not arguing that he is and I don’t think the people calling it a incel ref are saying that he is. I think they are saying that he is weirdly deli about a woman and is popular with a lot of incels because he is relatable for them. (Hating society is a way and kinda delulu about women)

              Also I want to repeat, I might misremember stuff.