• abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    6 days ago

    Time for me to say this again:

    THE WEIGHT LIMIT ON LUGGAGE IS TO PROTECT BAGGAGE HANDLERS FROM INJURY. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TAKE OFF OR LANDING WEIGHT.

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      6 days ago

      I appreciate that you’re clarifying with facts, in the social mediaverse that revolves around stubborn preconceptions.

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        6 days ago

        Because they wanna fleece you for every penny you have, but the point still stands that for the most part it’s to protect baggage handlers. If you wanna take a dead body on board you have to take that up with the airline.

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      6 days ago

      If that’s all it is, then just slap a bright red tag on the over weight bags to warn the handlers. Right?

      • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        6 days ago

        Not quite.

        You know how X-Ray Techs go into a little room to protect themselves while you get your x-ray? That’s because while you are only getting one (1) x-ray, maybe two (2), they have to do tens or hundreds a day, and the raditation levels from that can cause them harm, while you getting one or two x-rays is fine.

        Now replace x-ray with your overweight bag filled with cheap Scotch you got from the Duty Free at EDI and “Radiation” with knee and back injuries from doing that over and over again for eight hours a day, and you can see why both the Unions and the Companies would object to unlimited baggage weight for passengers as workers will be out of work from injuries and companies will have to pay them compensation and find someone to replace them.

        If individual passenger weight was enough to prevent take off, then very few people would be able to fly.

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        6 days ago

        Now every single bag is overweight and they have to lift all of them all day. I suspect a few is ok but they really want to discourage too many of them so they are not lifting too many heavy weights all day.

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          I believe that after 50lbs it becomes a team lift and requires 2 people to lift the bag. Which 1 person can do but when hunched over in the belly of the plane it becomes harder and more likely to injure one’s back.

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        If you are there handling heavy items all day, you’re gonna get injured. That doesn’t just fuck up the workers (meaning they can’t go to work) but it costs the company money too (because they need to replace those handlers).

        Think of it like this, you know how the X-Ray tech has to go into a little shielded room while you are getting X-Rayed, but you are still exposed to the full force of the X-Ray? That’s not because they care about their safety more than yours, it’s because one x-ray is fine (what your getting), but the x-ray tech does tens, maybe hundreds a day, and that builds up to radiation poisoning.

        Now replace “X-Ray Radiation” with Repetitive Strain and back injuries" and “X-Ray” with the Suitcase full of Drugs your smuggling into the Netherlands, and you get the idea.

      • Billegh@lemmy.world
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        6 days ago

        Yes. Can’t have them hurting themselves and causing delays because the airport won’t staff appropriately. Remember, safety is for controlling costs.

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      They carry literal caskets with dead parts on commercial flights… that’s definitely heavier

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        Right, so everyone should be allowed to bring on a coffin size suitcase with at least 100kg with of weight now? They plan that out in advance so unless you are going to inform the airline well in advance that you’re bringing a corpse’s weight of luggage on board, my point still stands.

        “They bring bodies on board so I can bring a 100kg suicase” is a level of logic only seen when a Karen screams at some poor customer service person because her plane was cancelled due to a hurricane as if there’s a secret network of hurricane proof planes that are only unlocked if you act like a bitch.

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        Because it is rubbish. Airlines allow heavier suitcases with “heavy” sticker on it. It is pure money grab.

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    “Any time you think it’s not about the money, it’s about the money.”

    Mahatma Gandhi
    
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        They’ll gladly take your overweight bag if you give them extra…money. The airlines don’t care about baggage handlers.

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    Energy scarcity and our atmosphere could be helped by charging by the kilo gram. There are people who take it as an incentive to get as close as possible to the limit, increasing the weight of the loaded aircraft!

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      Energy scarcity and our atmosphere could be helped by charging by the kilo gram

      *USians going into meltdown

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      6 days ago

      It isn’t about the weight of the aircraft but the person loading the luggage in the belly of the aircraft.

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    7 days ago

    Can I get the exact same picture but with an obese fat woman and a sexy male athlete, please? Or would that be inappropriate?

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    Tell ya what. Make it as easy for me to pop off a pound as it is for someone else to take a hair dryer out of their luggage and I will happily pay for all the extra boobs I bring on board after I remove the weight everywhere else.

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    How is that logical that the man should pay extra cause he’s bigger/taller but small people should get extra luggage bonus?

    Not even taking into account that this very short lady will be far more comfortable during the flight than the gentleman.

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      Its not logical - Weight limits aren’t there for the flight, they’re there so the luggage handlers don’t injure themselves

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        6 days ago

        Of course… What airline companies are most concerned about is the well being of their luggage handlers.

        Even if they claim that this is one of the reasons, it’s a by product of cost management.

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          It’s because of safety standards. 50 pounds isn’t a set limit, but you can see how any decent lawyer can take that NIOSH model used and get a crapton of money from a company if an employee does get hurt lifting more, so conservative companies that don’t want to have to pay out will set that limit themselves.

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        Weight limits are critical for the flight. An overweight plane can fail to take off. The more weight in passengers a plane carries, the more weight in fuel they need to add. This extra fuel weight also requires more fuel to carry it. And so on and so on.

        There’s a tipping point with weight of passengers and cargo combined with flight duration where the plane becomes uneconomical to fly. Planes have crashed on takeoff because they were overweight but the weight was miscalculated. Temperature and weather also play a role.

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      Adding to that, people need to load all those suitcases in. The man doesn’t get carried into the plane.

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      The logic being that there is ~$0.82 USD per KG of fuel cost that has to be accounted for

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    OSHA.

    The throwers have a union to stop them from killing themselves, which means we don’t give them 40kg things to break their backs regularly and anything over 22kgs they buddy lift or get a hoist or something.

    Thought it was just airlines being airlines too, but this makes complete sense, don’t be dicks about other people’s health.

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      i was in favor of total weight based pricing, but this changed my mind.

      may the backs of the people kicking around my luggage be in perfect health

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        Same, went from ‘you greedy mother-fuckers’ to ‘I am right with you fam’.

        Amazed they don’t explain it more, it makes them actually seem human for once.

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          because airlines do not actually care about their workers and just comply with the regulations half assedly. they cannot fathom compassion for human resources or assume milking it would backfire.

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            I mean, airlines are people too, and among the most unionized industries.

            They’re both soulless and actually human at the same time.

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      “One second, I just need to update some details before I can give you your boarding pass…”

      types into the terminal ‘customer wouldn’t let me weigh them, probably a fat fuck, recommend full body search at security checkpoint for contraband meals and soda’

      “Here you go, sorry about the delay, have a lovely day”