• SokathHisEyesOpen@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    Lol, as if terms of service for something freely available on the internet that doesn’t require an account to use mean anything at all. Stop huffing your own farts, Google.

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      Google cares a lot more about me watching ads than I care about watching YouTube.

      With that being said, I’ve only encountered the “Ad blockers violate YouTube’s terms of service” screen once, and when I refreshed it was gone

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    8 months ago

    Just so you know, Piped.video is also an option. And you can import your subscription feed from YouTube.

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    I’ve been with Firefox since the start and it’s going well. I tried the others to see what’s up but they never satisfied me. I’m a Firefox user all the way.

    Mandatory: FUCK REDDiT!!!

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      I know that it’s an herculean task with millions of workhours to build a browser from scratch with all engines JS (SpiderMonkey), CSS (Quantum) and HTML (Gecko) and we can be lucky to have Firefox. I use the very performant version on Android every day and especially appreciate that Dark Reader and uBlock Origin work.

      May I have a minute to talk to you about our saviour Vivaldi?

      If no other browser could satisfy you, you either haven’t tried Vivaldi, you haven’t tried it long enough or you tried an old version.

      For me no other browser comes close regarding the IMO most important feature of browsers (beside supporting the essential web-standards): tab management. Stacking, tiling, hibernating, pinning and more recently the fantastic workspace-feature.

      That’s only on the tab-front. How about: built in tracker- & ad-blocker, built in dark website-mode, translator, email-client, rss reader, note-app, reading-list, user definable search-engines, page screenshots, appify websites into sidebar and another killer feature: press F2 for a combined command-window and search-everywhere popup.

      The next best thing after the year of the Linux Desktop would be if Vivaldi and Firefox joined forces and Vivaldi would switch to Firefox’s engines.

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        Edge does nearly all those things now too. Edge and Vivaldi are both closed source and yet another Chromium under the hood.

        I’ll pass ty.

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        First of all I respect your love and support for Vivaldi. I’m also happy that you find something that is satisfying for you.

        Yes, Vivaldi is a solid option but it never clicked for me because of all the extra bells and whistles you mentioned.

        When I said I’m not satisfied with all these other famous browsers it’s because I tired them on an off many times but for my use case they don’t bring me anything over Firefox. I don’t need nor I want a built-in RSS reader, ad/tracker blockers, VPN, email client, translator etc… It doesn’t make a browser better in my humble opinion. It’s just adding extra stuff that I don’t want. I want the freedom to add or remove anything I want.

        I might be the odd one but I want things to be simple. When I buy a phone I don’t want to be paying for the extra cameras it has or when I buy a PC I don’t want the RGB stuff or when I buy a car I don’t want it to be connected to internet and require software updates. I don’t want my fridge to have internet connection nor my TV to have one.

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          Thanks for understanding. Didn’t want to disrespect your inclination to Firefox. Everyone should use what they like best. And I sure don’t want to sound preachy…but…YOU’RE MISSING OUT BIG TIME! Can I come in for just a moment to tell you about your path to a better life?

          “Simple things should be simple but complex things should be possible” (Alan Kay)

          Vivaldi’s UI is pretty minimal by default and can be minimized even more. Heck you even can hide the tab- and url-bar and completely navigate with F2. You can call it a day and keep using it like that or you go on to create mouse gestures, quick commands or themes, you set the key combos, configure the look of your speed dial and add search engines. That’s my last try, Neo. Do you take the red or the blue pill?

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            Ahahaha. Thanks but no thanks. I don’t have a fear of missing out and I don’t see myself using Vivaldi as my default browser in anytime soon.

            Good luck with your conversion efforts.

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      Same for the most part, but I will say I tried using Firefox on the Macbook Pro I used when I was working on my masters, and it was an absolute memory hog. I noticed during my tenure on r/firefox that most of the posts complaining about sluggishness or consuming massive amounts of memory came from Mac OS users, so I feel like I wasn’t alone.

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        You weren’t using Firefox though.

        You were using Safari with a Firefox skin.

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          Isn’t that only a thing on iPhone? I don’t think they impose that restriction on MacOS

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    I have seen so many inbuilt ad blockers of browsers fail, especially at YouTube, even before the recent changes, that I was surprised to see them still being used and promoted by eg. Louis Rossmann.
    IMO basically nothing can beat addons, at least if seen for all browsers or just firefox.
    Browser devs can’t focus on ad blocking functionality. And their team developing ad blockers will certainly be smaller than the team of devs for adblock addons; the browser just needs somewhat functional stuff while the addon depends on delivering a very good to perfect to be used and to receive donations.
    On chromium, with Manifest V3 at our doors, built in ad blockers will win over addons by far, just because they have more power.

    This creates an interesting situation, at least in my mind fed by my bubble:
    Tech nerds will use firefox, probably with adblock addon
    Tech illiterates will use whatever comes preinstalled - Edge, without any adblock
    Users that know the concept of browsers will probably use Chrome, or other browsers they heard before - possibly a Chromium browser with built in blocker

    Now, what happens if the built in blockers fail - again and again and again? Will the somewhat knowledgeable user care and switch to another browser, maybe the one pushed the most for adblocking: FF with uBlock?

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      Tech nerds will use firefox, probably with adblock addon

      Adblock isn’t a real issue because every browser has it. The real issue is all the other cool extensions available from Chromium-based browsers.

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        Yeah…that’s why I switched from FF to Chrome a few years ago. I was tired of whatever extension it was that i needed or wanted at the time being only on Chrome. Of course, i’m back on FF now and it seems to be much better for what i need, so that’s good.

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          If you’re ever aching for a chrome extension try out waterfox, it’s based on Firefox but also allows the use of some chrome extensions, the list of useable extensions used to be bigger, but it’s growing again thanks to the original dev getting the browser independent again and re-opening it’s development

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        I use 27 addons on my desktop, in firefox. There are no extensions I would need but don’t exist for firefox. The only extension I had to replace with a Tampermonkey script was Vencord, because the devs removed the firefox version of it.

        And on my phone I use 12 addons. On chrome, or any other browser not based on FF, I could use exactly none.

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    yeah for sure you should have ditched chrome (or chrome based browsers) years ago imho, but you do realize that this can happen on firefox too, right?

    easy fix: just update the ublock quick list in the settings of the addon.

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    I’ve already gone to the next step.

    Youtube clients that block ads.

    Gotta stay a step ahead.

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    Idk what that guys is complaining about. I’m running Brave with also uBlock Origin (for the ads the native blocker doesn’t detect) and right now on Youtube the native ad blocker catches everything and runs just fine.

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      I’m going to paste a reply I got in regards to Brave and why you should change to a different browser

      1. Brave is an advertising company, that blocks everyone, but them. Forcing over people and companies into their system.

      2. They’re heavily in the blockchain ecosystem, with their own worthless crypto.

      3. They take from open source projects (uBlock, Chromium, etc), but threaten legal action when someone forks them.

      4. They install bloat/spyware on your Windows system (later claimed it was a mistake).

      5. Brave, and its CEO is right-wing, lobbying against things like same-sex marriage.

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        Youre forgetting the fact chrome/chromium has integrated their whole drm b/s recently. They want ad blockers to die, period.

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        1. Don’t use Brave rewards, so don’t care.

        2. See 1.

        3. So like any for-profit company? Bad, but don’t care.

        4. It’s very brain dead to call the VPN service spyware. Besides, you’re on Windows, you have a lot more spyware to worry about first.

        5. Yeah, don’t care. If we go examining every company by if their leaders are morally good or not, we are gonna come very empty.

        But do you know what I care about? A browser that actually fucking works on mobile and doesn’t crash every other time I open it up.

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            let the voting system do its thing, replying about the “ratio” is just about as vapid and cringe as you can get.

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            If nobody cared, nobody would have replied in the first place.

            Also, must be sad to decide to engage based on the karma farm you’ll get, but good for you I guess…?

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        1. Check logs, with strict settings they block own domains. Even their telemetry is opt-in, not opt-out as other browsers do.
        2. Cryptoshit is a thing, but 100% opt-in. Accountless sync is real solution for privacy.
        3. False. Both Cromium and Brave borrow patches from each other, that is a nature of open-source. They sued someone using Brave branding, and some scam projects as well.
        4. False. That’s how Windows is made, VPN services installed are only manually started.
        5. That’s maybe even good, same-sex marriage is not normal for most people, but anyway that has nothing to do with browser, even if CEO eats childs on breakfast.
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          That’s maybe even good, same-sex marriage is not normal for most people, but anyway that has nothing to do with browser, even if CEO eats childs on breakfast.

          What the hell is your problem? Reported.

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        I’m going to paste a reply I got in regards to Brave and why you should change to a different browser

        just let people do whatever they want, wtf is wrong with you people

        It’s still better than using Google / Edge, and it’s basically the only good chromium alternative to the aforementioned browsers - reminder that stock chromium is not good.

        Beside, you forgot the most important point: they further the chromium monopoly, which while the engine is open source its codebase is too big so it is basically controlled by google

        Nitpicks:

        Brave is an advertising company, that blocks everyone, but them. Forcing over people and companies into their system.

        You can disable all the ads.

        They’re heavily in the blockchain ecosystem, with their own worthless crypto.

        Depending on whom you ask, it’s a pro or a cons.

        Brave, and its CEO is right-wing, lobbying against things like same-sex marriage.

        See above.

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          just let people do whatever they want, wtf is wrong with you people

          How are they stopping them? They’re not. But if you think that opposing equal rights for LGBT+ people is a good thing, then you’re a massive piece of shit, and we’re morally obligated to call you out for it, openly and repeatedly.

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          Vivaldi is chromium based and far better than the alternatives imo. They’re openly anti-big tech, push the fediverse, and will be forking starting at manifest v3.

          • It is still closed source nonetheless, which is a bit of a gimmick since nobody sane enough could read through most of a browser codebase anyway.

            According to this website it is less private than Brave by default, more or less like Firefox

            That said, I didn’t consider it before but I’ll definitely check it out later

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              AFAIK it was tested with the default setting set to no tracker- and ad-blocker. When enabling all the built in measurements it looks a lot better.