• Telodzrum@lemmy.world
      183·
      1 year ago

      I still dual boot for a few games and one piece of hardware that just don’t work on GNU/Linux, but I’m almost certainly never going back.

      There was an ad for Tik Tok in my Start Menu after the last update. Fuck everything about that sentence.

      • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.de
        7·
        1 year ago

        Uhh what hardware isn’t working? Is it something really niche? For some reason I like hearing about stuff like that.

        • Telodzrum@lemmy.world
          6·
          1 year ago

          It’s an old audio card. The output and input work, but it retains the volume level and mix settings as last adjusted in Windows. I’ll replace it eventually with a DAC and amp, which is what we put together for my wife’s build last year.

          It’s the nuAudio card (non-pro version) from EVGA. There are a few work around a, one of which is backflashing old firmware to get some level of control in Linux, but I don’t like the tradeoff and a couple of my Elite: Dangerous tools don’t work well on Linux anyway, so I need the Windows install for that.

        • blackbird@feddit.ukEnglish
          4·
          1 year ago

          I also keep a windows boot around just for updating my tomtom wirh map updates. Tried under Linux but the mydrive software just will not work. If anyone knows how to update a tomtom rider 400 under Linux, let me know.

        • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
          11·
          1 year ago

          If your corporate environment didn’t use GPO to just disable the suggestions (just like what you can do on the home edition to get rid of any and all ads), then I suggest they get someone actually knowledgeable in IT to manage their servers.

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
        71·
        1 year ago

        As one of them, no thank you. Windows is doing plenty of other crap and I don’t like and it turns out linux is kinda fun. Also once I finally understand what I’m doing I can set up a home server and other cool stuff.

        Also I’m not european so I can’t actually switch back

          • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
            1·
            1 year ago

            Yeah I’m just a shit programmer. I just have a few old workstations, a desire to eventually set up a jellyfin setup, and little enough knowledge that the beginner guides are often above my level

            • KptnAutismus@lemmy.world
              1·
              1 year ago

              honestly, i barely know how to write shit for an arduino. i have no prior experience with software. linux stuff is learning by doing. try something and see if that works. the text tutorials in the documentations are often the best way to install stuff. you’ll eventually figure it out.

        • BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works
          61·
          1 year ago

          Tried Debian stable, kept not being able to get stuff to work because of the packages always being too old. Not advocating for Ubuntu either, but Debian? For a desktop? GTFO! I’d sooner start using emacs instead of vim.

          • M500@lemmy.mlEnglish
            3·
            1 year ago

            So many things these days are flatpaks and app images. So it almost doesn’t matter.

            I’m don’t know your situation but I’m sure there are reasons someone might not be able to use Debian desktop.

          • IRQBreaker@startrek.website
            2·
            1 year ago

            A somewhat anecdotal comment here, but I’ve using Debian stable as a daily driver for years, both at work and at home. Haven’t had any issues yet. It’s so stable it’s almost boring. 😀 However, this is fine since I can focus on getting stuff done instead of messing about with the distro.

        • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
          31·
          1 year ago

          I wanted to, and did manage to figure the installer out once, but damn it’s user unfriendly… The os seems fine, installer was not. I had some other issues I was hoping would be fixed in Debian that weren’t, so unfortunately I did not stick with it

        • theneverfox@pawb.socialEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          Does debian even exist? I’ve never seen it… I’ve used a dozen flavors of “debian” Linux professionally, as well as the headwear related branches and centos… Most recently I’ve gotten into nixos (I tried a half dozen distros, none of the “Nvidia friendly” distros would work with my graphics card outside safe mode, even after debugging and official docs listing it as compatible with Ubuntu… Five lines in the nix config, will nix again)

          All this time, I’ve seen countless mentions of this mythical debian… at this point I’m pretty sure it’s just a meme, like Australia. I get Australia, someone mispronounced Austria and made up this wild story of a land full of deer who hop on two legs and kickbox (hilarious), but I don’t get the joke with debian. Is it just supposed to be the mythical Linux that works on any hardware configuration?

      • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
        71·
        1 year ago

        Moving to an entirely different operating system is a big step just to… end up with closed, proprietary software and spyware again.

      • ColdWater@lemmy.ca
        1·
        1 year ago

        If you switch why not go alway? Try Linux from scratch or Arch/Debian, Ubuntu is only a few steps behind MS in term of spyware

    • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
      1·
      1 year ago

      If it really was that much spyware, the EU would already have created laws to do something about it.

      More likely is that it really isn’t spyware as much as it is basic unanimous telemetry, which you can disable in the settings.

  • JCreazy@midwest.socialEnglish
    28·
    1 year ago

    It’s going to be one of those things where someone is either going to switch to Linux or they’re not. Most people will take convenience over privacy.

  • Norgur@kbin.social
    26·
    1 year ago

    It’s a little naive to think that this was an incentive to use Linux for ppl in the first place.

    • wuphysics87@lemmy.ml
      6·
      1 year ago

      Windows is made by a company that would make this change in some countries but not all countries. We are not free until we are all free. Some operating systems guarantee that. Others do not.

      • jasondj@ttrpg.network
        1·
        1 year ago

        I don’t disagree with you but dude people are sick of the politicization of everything and their operating system doesn’t even get onto that radar. They are ignorant and quite happy of it. Please let the pigs eat their shit in peace.

        That said, it is quite telling that Microsoft apparently finds it more advantageous to have two divergent feature sets than to apply the change universally.

        • wuphysics87@lemmy.ml
          1·
          1 year ago

          I get where you are coming from. FWIW I’m being a jackass for the hell of it rather than trying to start a flame war. But if someone is to get upset about it, perhaps its something for them to reflect on later.

  • LainOfTheWired@lemy.lolEnglish
    231·
    1 year ago

    People have already proven they will put up with about anything Microsoft throws at them, so they were never going to switch anyway.

    Also you still can’t uninstall the bootloader under windows.😆

    • AItoothbrush@lemmy.zipEnglish
      22·
      1 year ago

      Yeah people will download a patched windows iso, go through an extremely complicated install process to have everything the way they want, flip a few bits in windows with some shady ass tool and give up updates instead of just using linux.

      • Jako301@feddit.de
        2·
        1 year ago

        Doing all that takes about 2 hours. The shady ass tool is also unnecessary since you can manually change the registry entries. Once it’s done I can install anything by double clicking the exe and it runs 99.9% of the time.

        Linux meanwhile only takes half an hour to setup and update (if we are talking about a beginner friendly one like mint cinnamon), but you will use a lot more hours trying to get everything to run. There rarely are good drivers for peripherals, to get even slightly more then the most barebone functions of my logitech gear I have to run a shady github project someone slapped together 3 years ago. The adaptive clock on my laptop doesn’t work, I loose about 2 hours of battery life and the touch pad stops working after a few hours.

        I dualboot a win10 ltsc version and mint. By now most stuff runs fine on Linux, but it has taken me 10 times the effort to get to that state compared to windows. And even now I occasionally have to fiddle with wine cause it decides that this specific programm isn’t to its liking. And that’s ignoring the issue it was to run anything with anticheat. That requires a VM with GPU passtrough to even remotely work.

        • AItoothbrush@lemmy.zipEnglish
          23·
          1 year ago

          In my experience everything already had drivers installed on linux. I think with the logitech stuff you mean the stupid configuration ui that would perfectly work on linux but they choose to not port it(you can still use it with wine for example). All my keyboards have qmk so that works on linux. A github project is much less shady because you can check the source code. Idk whats wrong with your trackpad. Battery life is hit or miss on linux, i get more hours on linux currently but only after installing some stuff. On ubuntu or mint the battery life should be good out of the box. Anticheat is basically anti-linux so ofc it wont work. For me backwards compatibility is better on linux than windows. When i try to run old software on windows it never works. Software support is pretty good nowadays but some professional stuff wont work. If you do that you should go mac lol.

        • R0cket_M00se@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          Gaming performance on Linux is excellent, I’m getting stable 60FPS on single player games on my old 1050 equipped laptop from 2016 that weren’t even playable on the old Windows install.

          Anticheat however is a different story, and CoD DMZ/Zombies is where I spend most of my gaming time so it’s difficult to just give up a Windows install.

  • JackSkellington@lemmy.world
    232·
    1 year ago

    Shouldn’t the same be applied to MacOS? There are a myriad of stupid apps impossible to uninstall. Maybe even safari

    • Dmian@lemmy.world
      172·
      1 year ago

      While you can’t uninstall Safari, it doesn’t constantly discourage you to use other browsers like Edge does. Nor does Mac OS prevents you from installing competing apps.

      The bigger problem is iOS, but the EU already took care of that and we’ll be able to sideload apps on iOS pretty soon.

      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
        31·
        1 year ago

        I remember Mac os ignoring my default browser choice many times and instead launching a web page in safari.

      • JackSkellington@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 year ago

        True, I forgot that part. Thanks! Still, it comes as weird for me to have software (zero tied to OS functions ) I cannot remove

      • Square Singer@feddit.de
        31·
        1 year ago

        Does Mac prohibit other browser engines like they do on iOS?

        Doesn’t do a lot of good, that they let you use other browsers if they are just reskins for Safari.

      • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
        1·
        1 year ago

        Mac literally doesn’t allow any other browser engine. They only allow webkit.

        So your options are:

        • Safari

        • Safari with Chrome aesthetics

        • Safari with Firefox aesthetics

        • Safari with [insert browser here] aesthetics

      • miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml
        21·
        1 year ago

        Older MacOS versions had stuff like the chess game preinstalled for no reason, though I don’t know how current versions look like.

        I also don’t know how easy it is to remove preinstalled apps nowadays. Back in the day, you could disable System Integrity Protection, remove whatever you want, and re-enable Protection afterwards.

        • kurosawaa@programming.dev
          3·
          1 year ago

          That chess game even predates OS X, it was a tech demo that came with the NextStep OS and has barely changed since the mid nineties. At this point it would be said to see it go.

  • ftbd@feddit.de
    17·
    1 year ago

    Idk, the whole “Megacorp is forced to do reasonable thing, but will still only do so in regions where the law applies” should further encourage people to move away from all their crap.

  • ZILtoid1991@kbin.social
    112·
    1 year ago

    Edge isn’t as bad nowadays, and it’s not much more of a spyware than Google Chrome, the meme browser.

  • shekau@lemmy.today
    8·
    1 year ago

    I get the point, but there’s for example Evolution which you cannot uninstall from GNOME without uninstalling the GNOME itself

    • ikidd@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      Well, you could if the package was set up differently, or if you wanted to go at it manually. But they way the maintainers set the dependencies makes apt think it has to remove the whole DE, or at least a bunch of essential parts of it.

      • uis@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 year ago

        Can’t you pass something like --unmerge or --nodeps so package manager will ignore dependencies? And then add it to apt equivalent of package.prpvided to tell that this package is managed by another package manager(you).

      • RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world
        31·
        1 year ago

        That’s the point. Obviously you can uninstall any windows application too, it’s just that Microsoft doesn’t want you to.

  • orcrist@lemm.ee
    5·
    1 year ago

    I disagree with the premise, but even if it’s true that people stay with Windows because it sucks less, that’s still a success story for Linux. External comparative pressure leading to more end user freedom. Think of where it could go next!