• Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    2 months ago

    Taking care of yourself is gay. “Real men” reduce their life expectancy by purposefully living an unhealthy lifestyle.

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      2 months ago

      The whole man flu thing is also goofy because I’m pretty sure I’ve read men typically avoid going to the doctor for things they absolutely should be going to the doctor over. Then again, it’s my understanding that doctors will blow off things women tell them so it’s just an overall shitty state of affairs.

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    I looked him up and he is English. Weren’t English sailors called Limeys because of the lime juice in their rations, specifically for scurvy prevention? He should have signed up with the Admiralty instead of the pirates.

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      Funny enough…

      1. Yes.

      2. The lime juice was meant as a cheaper alternative to lemon juice. And it wasn’t very effective, lmao. National militaries and sabotaging the health of their troops to save a buck - name a more iconic duo.

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        It was cheaper in the sense of they imported from limes from the Carribean and lemons from India, which with no Suez canal is a pretty big difference. And at the same time they invented steam power, shortening voyages so the reduced effectiveness wasn’t noticed until longer voyages due to newer military doctrines occurred again

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          Well, the reduced effectiveness was noticed. It created significant uncertainty, funny enough, over the actual causes of scurvy, since apparently citrus fruit wasn’t enough, until more rigorous studies happened in the 20th century.

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        “National militaries and sabotaging the health of their troops to save a buck - name a more iconic duo.”

        That literally sounds like america though

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          It’s, sadly, applicable to most militaries throughout history and the modern day.

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    2 months ago

    On one hand it’s stupid to sabotage your health to appear more masculine. On the other hand casually bringing up that you have contracted a pirate illness in conversation does sound pretty damn masculine.

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      You joke but it really is.

      We are seeing the fallout of 2 world wars killing off so many fathers that the tradition of passing down male wisdom was broken, and was replaced by the ‘hollywood’ vision of masculinity, which is toxic af. Just look at how accepted slapping women was on film in the 40s-70s.

      The modern chantard incel stereotype is a direct result of boys growing up with few positive male role models in their close circles and none of them having the generational wisdom of their great grandfathers to pass down.

      Unfortunately, most people concerned with gender equality are so focused on dismantling the patriarchy that no one has a solid plan for re-establishing the positive male role model tradition.

      All of the social signs are there, China experienced this problem several times during the Warring States period and identified the root as ‘bare branches’, men with no prospect for a marriage or future that would form bands of criminals that would go around raping and pillaging.

      We are starting to see that a bit now with all of the white male mass shootings, and rape has always been a mostly invisible problem in our culture.

      And it’s going to get much, much worse unless we can find a way to re-establish the value of the wholesome male role model. And if you see who the male role models the youngest generation are choosing (Logan Paul is a great example) you’ll be just as pessimistic about our immediate future as I am.

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    Should’ve eaten some sauerkraut and fried onions! The manliest of all vegetables! Has the bonus effect of repelling ladies up to 5 feet away!

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    According to the internet, he did it at university, eating nothing but mince, chicken, and mayonnaise for about 2 months. He did so to annoy other students in his classes who were vegan or vegetarian.

    I’ve actually heard a few stories of uni students getting scurvy, although they were because they either didn’t know how to cook or couldn’t afford food.

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        Not only that but requirements for vitamin C plummet to virtually non existent when you stop eating carbs. It’s an area that is gaining increased scientific interest. A lot of people have been doing carnivore for 5-10 years now and show no signs of deficiency. High profile people like Jordan Peterson and his daughter Mikayla come to mind

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    It is pretty funny that eating meat is still seen as a masculine thing. Pff what? Tofu? No i buy my meat like a real man in this other isle, next to the tofu.

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      TBH it’s not impossible to derive necessary vitamins from raw herbivore livers, as many early humans assuredly did when crops were scarce.

      He’s just a pussy.

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        Livers were prized parts of the animal for hunts, we knew the value of organ meat before.

        Just now everyone is like ‘ick, organ meat’…

        That said, I don’t know if I trust modern livers, they are the toxin dump of the body and while I’d happily eat liver before the industrial revolution, I’m not sure its safe to eat now considering how we treat our farmlands.

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          Yeah I’m not suggesting anybody get parasites to prove how manly they are, but clearly the guy didn’t even know the basics of nutrition.

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            Most people don’t bother looking into it other than what they read on blogs or see on youtube. There’s a LOT of nutritional misinfo going around. Thats what happens when social media values reach and clout over accuracy and meaning.

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    haha, happened to me:

    its copper deficency by zink overload.-

    without copper, there is multiple things that go wrong. but it takes time to deplete copper stores. zink always wins against copper, and meat is full of zink.

    vitamin c d, and iron wont work without copper.

    I did that because I develeoped grain allergy, and was insuline resistant.

    I eat grains again, but sparingly.

    went down from 95 kilos to 65.

    fun fact:

    nobody talks about that. carnivore influencer dont, thats for sure.

    https://www.jbc.org/article/S0021-9258(20)71083-5/fulltext https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/molecular-biosciences/articles/10.3389/fmolb.2021.711227/full

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        I lOVE bread and noodles.

        But I hate having stomach cramps, needing 20 tons of toilet paper for one poop, constant bloatet stomach, well, and hypertension, skin problems, inflammation and anxiety. psorias, heart arrytmia.

        its all gone now.

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            Food wise? Oh that’s easy.

            Fats and salts, before agriculture and animal domestication, were hard to get a significant amount of in our diets, and the plants we foraged were usually much lower in starch and higher in fiber. Our bodies are geared to focus on these nutrient sources, so starches fats and salts taste really, really good.

            Agriculture short circuited that focus as we produced and cultivated plants that were starchier, sugarier, and animals in general tripped our ‘mmmm delicious’ buttons much better than their uncultivated ancestors.

            So basically it’s REALLY easy in our modern diets to get WAY too much starch, salt, and fat because our appetites are geared by millions of years of evolution but we have only been agricultural for a hundred thousand years at the very most and our biology hasn’t caught up.

            So we take in a LOT more of the ‘good stuff’ that our body wants, and too much of anything is not good.

            Hence the modern obesity epidemic and the rise of type 2 diabetes.

            People like to whine it is a personal willpower problem, but it really isn’t.

            It’s a food supply problem. 60% of the space in our grocery stores is just made up of various nutritionally empty configurations of starch, fat, and salt.

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      Not slow, just lucky to have not encountered such cretins. There is a very non-zero amount of men who believe that ‘traditional’ masculinity includes avoiding ‘feminine’ foods, including ‘rabbit food’ (ie anything green, leafy, or vaguely healthy). The meat-only diet is the natural extension of this line of thinking to the full caveman-stereotype conclusion.

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      If the alternative is scurvy I’d rather just be a dude with a dick that likes vag that’s emasculate.

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        that just reminds me of a shitty intelligent design meme where all the foods look like the organ they say they’re good for.

        My new proposed man diet is bananas, cucumbers, mushrooms, and animal dicks. Manliest of diets.

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          The Doctrine of Signs, haha good memories.

          Just as an aside: It has its roots in the ancient greek philosophers and was considered for centuries to be the pinnacle of rational thought. I mean, it wasn’t, but for literally more than a thousand years it has been a form of mental masturbation amongst the oldschool academic elite.

          Got a lot of shelf fungus prescribed as ear medication lol

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      As a man without scurvy, I can personally attest that not all men have scurvy