I once tried to get a conspiracy theory going that Flat Earth was a fake conspiracy started by the government to cover up the real conspiracy - that the moon is flat. That’s why we only ever see one side of it and why we were able to land on it. It didn’t take lol.
I just need people to know that they didn’t fake the moon landing, that really happened. They faked the moon. It didn’t exist prior to the 1960s when it was created by the US government in order to move the goalposts in the space race.
The insider knowledge that there would soon be a moon to land on gave NASA the head start they needed on the Apollo program to finally beat the Soviets, who were thoroughly blindsided by the sudden appearance of the moon.
This is bullshit. What we see as the moon is actually the earth, after the reptillians ruined it. What we live on is actually a domed space station orbiting the moon-earth.
We didnt go to the moon, we went back to the moon.
why we were able to land on it.
This is why you failed. Everyone knows the moon landing was fake and directed by Kubrick.
Yes, but you know how Kubrick was. He made them film on location.
My best friend has an unnatural talent for this sort of thing and really enjoys toying with conspiracy theory nuts.
When folks start talking about crazy shit, it makes me very anxious and I tend to shut down. Not my buddy. He eggs them on, encourages it, and gets them to say things or agree with things that are even more outlandish than where they conversation started. Things will start at “China invented covid to kill off old people” and somehow end up at “Hillary Clinton paid to have her chromosomes added to the covid vaccines so that DNA evidence can no longer be used against her in the courts”.
I love this method and employ it at bars. It’s like gonzo conversationalism.
Wasn’t that somewhat how Q-anon started?
I think that basically is yeah. Then, when they saw that it had gathered a following, admins on a #chan who were pro-Trump and think that they’re super smart because they use Haskell took over to pump up fringe support.
Yeah, but how do I know that what you just wrote isn’t another conspiracy theory? I’m just so confused
Oh that’s just the normal effect of the alien mind control rays.
Dank memes can’t melt steel beams.
7/11 was a part time job.
“Moon landing was fake!!!” “You still believe the moon is real?”
I once got on the topic of the moon lending with a creationist co-worker. He said he wasn’t sure, but that if it happened we should be able to see it from satellite pictures. So I said “yeah you can”, pulled it up, and zoomed in on a landing site. You couldn’t see footprints or anything, but you could see the shadow of the flag next to clearly man-made debris
I showed him exactly what he agreed would be proof in a difficult to fake form, and it just temporarily nudged the needle for him
Now, I fight conspiracies with the opposite conspiracies.
Earth is a 4D hypersphere, the earth isn’t hollow, Agatha is just another part of the surface reached by holes
The elites are hiding all the best vaccines, like the ones that cure cancer
I recently watched “Brief history of the Wrong Earths” by Hardcore Sci-Fi, not many of these are well known so you could have so much more ammunition for fooling around like that with people.
“flat earth? Nah, it’s expanding bro! Oh wait actually it’s 9 hollow earths one in another!”
This was highly effective when I used it in real life.
The conspiracy theorist got real mad demanding I name sources, I kept telling him to find it on the internet with fake search terms.
congress is full of marxist-leninist-pelosi-ists who intentionally cause inflation to distract us from finding obama’s birth certificate! google “MLP inflation” if yu don’t believe me!
I would have screamed “do your own research!” before just leaving.
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The reason I absolutely believe this to be true? Because I’ve used this on my little brothers since we were kids. I’m 45.
It’s called “reverse psychology.”
Can confirm this is true because the same was true for my mum. She was against the COVID vaccine, but then she started believing that the theories were started by the Chinese government to target people who don’t listen to the authorities.
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Citations needed or all citations point to unreliable sources (Adrian Zenz).
My personal conspiracy theory is that the Chinese government did engineer (or at least selectively cultivate) COVID
The theory I’d believe more is that the U S of A govt or one of its agencies engineered and released it in China.
China and India are growing economies, with decent populations and a pandemic would seriously delay their growth and help the U S of A keep it’s top place for a bit longer or destroy its competitors.
I’ve heard the theory being given decent thought by non-western people. And it’s equally, if not, more believable than the other one.
The US is the only country that has ever used nuclear weapons on civillians, so them using biological weapons on civillians would not be a big moral barrier for them or a big stretch to think about.
They probably didn’t think it’d spread this much and their own citizens n even president would be idiotic enough to be against vaccines and masks, when people were dying.
The US is the only country that has ever used nuclear weapons on civillians, so them using biological weapons on civillians would not be a big moral barrier for them or a big stretch to think about.
That’s such a small stretch that it’s actually a confirmed fact that the US has repeatedly used chemical and biological warfare. Korea and Vietnam are merely two easy examples.
The theory I’d believe more is that the U S of A govt or one of its agencies engineered and released it in China.
They did a stupid ass job them, killing the older only gonna help China, and it didn’t even killed enough people to make a difference and it backfired in the US, the conspiracy that China was engineering with it and shit escaped make more sense
They did a stupid ass job them
They probably didn’t expect their president to be idiotic enough to be against vaccines and recommend stuff like bleach.
They’re a developed nation and could’ve had better control.
They were able to hinder Chinese trade a bit.And didn’t they try and fail to kill Castro in many stupid ass ways?
I think them doing it is more likely than China doing it to their own, considering the trade issues that the virus caused for China at the time.
And again, they were the first to use nuclear weapons on civillians. Did it twice even.
I don’t think they’d have an qualms about using biological weapons, if they thought that it’d give them an edge.They also can float the ‘China virus’ conspiracy to confuse the public and make them anti-China too.
You forgot the anti-vaccine campaign they ran in countries near China saying their vaccine contained pig parts. Not the US state dept’s first anti-vax campaign btw.
US vaccines were made available first and foremost to Western citizens, and only then were made available to purchase. China released their vaccine worldwide, so countries without a vaccine program had access earlier and cheaper than they could acquire vaccines from the US. Their anti-vax campaign was meant to prevent other countries from accepting China’s offer, thus preventing goodwill towards China, protecting the profits of US companies, and leading to the deaths of millions who could have been saved in “US Allied” countries such as the Philippines.
If you were going to buy into one of these two conspiracy theories, first you should have some actual evidence, and then you should look at the behavior of these countries and ask yourself: which behavior is more consistent with releasing a virus that could act as an economic weapon meant to shut-down a country, but not kill everyone?
The Chinese government has not persecuted Uyghurs, tin foil hat person
I understand your desire to defend communism.
But really, how far does an authoritarian regime have to go, while calling itself communist, before you judge them?
What evidence would change your mind about the CCP?
Where did I defend the CCP or communism?
(I do fully support communism and have critical support for China, but that’s not the question here)
What evidence would change your mind about […]
Show me evidence that the Uyghur are being persecuted
Where did I defend the CCP or communism?
You’re a Lemmygrad user, they’re going to assume that’s your intent by default
Thank you for answering.
I am not sure where to start, but let’s take the easy way: At the moment of writing, the wikipedia page “Persecution of Uyghurs in China” has 585 references.
They’re probably all written by seemingly independent institutions, journalists and scientists who somehow have a McCarthyist-like fear of communism that they’d risk their credibility just to add a bit of damage to communist China’s moral standing?
Or are they all factually incorrect through some other mechanism?
The one child policy has been abolished a good while before covid.
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That doesn’t change the distribution of demographics by itself. Even assuming the birth rate skyrocketed after the nixing of the one child policy, it takes ~20 years before those people are working age.
How are China’s stringent lockdowns explained in this conspiracy theory? Also, where do I sign up as a member?
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A repressive regime that becomes less repressive during a global pandemic is highly suspicious. Gotta keep up appearances.
just trust me bro
Okay, I’m convinced. 😂
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We’re stupid, but at least we’re honest about it. They’re stupid, but at least they have the decency to not act like it out in broad daylight.
Wrong comparison. People from the US are stupid and proud of it. There’s nothing honest coming from the US except bombs.
I like you.
Like, this is what conspiracy should be - actually somewhat believable - and not dumb shit like flat earth.
I always held that 9/11 was dubious. Not an “inside job” per se, but definitely a case of “we’re gonna turn our backs for just a second, and you terrorists better not do something silly while we’re not looking!”
One of the biggest things that will always stick out to me: the WMDs. They were adamant Iraq had them. They said they had actual evidence. None of it was true. It all came across as an excuse for ol’ George to go in and try to finish what daddy started in '91.
Just to be clear as well, I think other conspiracies such as the controlled demolition of the towers and the fake plane at the pentagon are bullshit. I don’t have my tinfoil hat on that tightly.
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Its only believable if you’re already racist.
This thread brought to you by Western Imperialism™.
Seeing this allowed on mander.xyz is deeply disappointing.
I always held that 9/11 was dubious. Not an “inside job” per se, but definitely a case of “we’re gonna turn our backs for just a second, and you terrorists better not do something silly while we’re not looking!”
But why? What they won letting that happen?
The Patriot Act gives the government practically unlimited permission to spy on all citizens. It was created and passed as a result of 9/11.
I fondly remember reading a comment in /r/conspiracy on a post claiming a geologic seismic weapon brought down the towers.
It just tore into the claims, citing all the reasons this was preposterous bordering on batshit crazy.
And then it said “and your theory doesn’t address the thermite residue” going on to reiterate their wild theory.
Was very much a “don’t name your gods” moment that summed up the sub - a lot of people in agreement that the truth was out there, but bitterly divided as to what it might actually be.
As long as they only focused on generic memes of “do your own research” and “you aren’t being told the truth” they were all on the same page. But as soon as they started naming their own truths, it was every theorist for themselves.
It’s ego powered with insecurity jetfuel, still can’t melt steel beams tho.joke
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they add fentanyl to your previous vaccines!
Lies!
Everybody knows that the terrorists on the planes aimed them at the floor containing the Illuminati outpost and it was the fire from the cooling liquid for the supercomputers used to mind control everybody in New York that melted the support steel structure.
cooling liquid would make cold fires idiot, how would that melt steel?
Actually, if you want to take what I said seriously, cooling liquids just have a high termal capacity and decent or high termal conductivity as well as being at the liquid stage at the temperature range they’re supposed to work in: a cooling liquid by itself it does not cool anything, it just absorbs heat from the environment on one side of the circuit, carries that heat somewhere else and releases it to the environment there and after that it circulates back to absorb some more heat and so on - the name “cooling liquid” is somewhat deceitful since those liquids work by transporting heat from a hot side to a cold side rather than making things cooler by their mere presence.
There are plenty of combustible fluids which fit the criteria and could be used as liquid coolants. Whether it would be wise to use a combustible liquid (worse, one which would burn at a high enough temperature to melt, or at least to soften, steel) for cooling computers is an entirelly different matter altogether.
The idea of a cooling liquid that’s combustible is actually the “it’s absolutelly possible” part of my post and not the “stupid” part.
yeah sorry bud but i’ve done my own research and cooling liquids burn cold, i won’t fall for your industry propaganda.
When I started reading these comments I didn’t expect them to be full of actual, unironic conspiracy theories. 🤔
Dinosaurs are a lie created by the wizards to hide the existence of dragons.
The wizards hunted dragons to extinction because their wings made good spell components and they want to dodge responsibility for it.
Its ugly, but it’s true.
Then the warlocks killed off all the wizards for taking away their sources of power. It’s why you don’t see magic in use today. The wizards have all been killed off and the warlocks have no entities left to pact with.
Jet fuel indeed doesn’t burn hot enough to melt steel. Forging temperature, OTOH, no issue.
You don’t understand, steel is either solid or melted. No in-between. No idea what you mean by forging temperature, swords for example are forged by pouring liquid steel to a form, it’s in so many movies!
/s obviously.
I know the /s but I also want to introduce you to amorphous solids! (Because I like them so now you get to read this lol) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorphous_solid
Which is essentially a “solid” structure without a proper crystalline structure. This will cause it to move as a liquid at incredibly slow speeds. Such a glass for instance. Extremely old historical glass can be seen to be thicker at the bottom than the top. Not because it was built this way, but because over hundreds of years it has “poured” down [1].
*This is a simplified explanation and therefore may not be acutely accurate for sake of simplicity
TL;DR Some solid stuff is really just super slow liquids. I.E. Glass
[1]: See link in comment reply. Glass is an amorphous solid but sources say that glass pane construction is the cause of thicker bottoms rather than it’s movement over time.
Every conspiracy theory should have some way to bet on it.
Can I be the house?
It sounds like you’re conspiring against us, so yes.
I like to just be the crazier one. Flat earth? You still believe in an earth, you silly goose egg.
I’m part of the no-moon society. Flat earth?! How about the fact that the moon is fake!?
The sun revolves around the earth just like the moon.
Jet fuel doesn’t need extra tanks of mind control agent, they’re already using leaded fuel
lead is in avgas for prop planes, not jet fuel.
*I guess turboprops also use jet fuel so I should have said small GA planes but you get the point.
We really need to get rid of that.
decomissioning millions (?) of perfectly good planes doesnt seem practical and modding old airplane engines to use different fuel doesnt seem like the safest way to solve this problem.
how do we even begin?
I thought that you can still sell new props that need leaded fuel, is that not the case?
no idea that was the case. i was thinking of old 70s cessna type planes and stuff
Regardless, looks like there’s a plan to get everybody off the stuff by 2030.
