• kartonrealista@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    That moment when your veganism goes so hard you commit a hate crime on the internet implicitly comparing Jews to cattle

    Edit: I’m from Poland, the country where most of the Holocaust happened - this is where the Jewish population was the highest and where Germans build their death camps. We read about it extensively at school, including eyewitness accounts describing the atrocities involved in this horrific campaign of human extermination, from the home of the Jew, to the ghetto, to the transport train, to the camp, to the gas chamber and to the furnace. Many of us heard those stories from our grandparents, of their neighbors being humiliated and taken away, ghettos liquidated, and public executions. I don’t know what kind of deplorable scumbag one has to be to equate factory farming with the Holocaust.

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      1 year ago

      implicitly comparing Jews to cattle

      Yes, it’s a tasteless comparison. I’m a German. Hello neighbor, nice to live in peace.

      The comparison also falls flat because while the Holocaust was a genocide, meant to eradicate, factory farming is the polar opposite.

      The population size of factory farmed animals is usually way above natural levels, because we farm them. A philosopher even called it an evolutionary win for the farmed species (which does not justify any harm done to individuals).

      There are more ways to express ‘very bad’ than comparing to the Holocaust, and many reasons not to, if you understand it.

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        You’re right, it’s so much fucking worse than the Holocaust by orders of magnitude. At least the Nazis weren’t raping women to keep the Holocaust perpetually going.

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      *implicitly comparing the treatment of Jews during the holocaust to the treatment of cattle today

      also, you can compare two things without equating them

      I think if you actually cared about the words you wrote, you wouldn’t have used them as the basis of a lazy strawman to win an argument on the internet against veganism

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        1 year ago

        I don’t care about arguing about veganism. Just stop bringing up stuff like this. Also, do you think calling something a “modern holocaust” is not a comparison in terms of scale of harm? As opposed to every other time those words are used?

        Edit: If you want to argue for veganism, stop bringing up Shoah. It’s disgusting, downplaying the severity of the genocide, and earns you no favors with the general population. It has negative convincing power.

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          It’s 90 billion every year. If their suffering is 15000 less significant, that’s one holocaust a year, every year, since many years. Why are you using Shoah, if holocaust is so obviously only one thing? And why are the voices of holocaust victims/survivors/relatives totally fine to silence? Many have made that comparison, shouldn’t they know best whether it’s comparable???

          You are correct however that this argument is utterly stupid and useless to make, esp. online, where there is zero context.