• themeatbridge@lemmy.world
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    Just in case you aren’t pissed off about this, measles isn’t going to stay in Florida. Every transmission and every infection is an opportunity for mutation and reproduction. Measles vaccinations help, but it isn’t 100% effective. The more people infected, the worse it’s going to get.

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      Get more pissed:

      About 1 in 5 unvaccinated people in the U.S. who get measles is hospitalized.

      Encephalitis. About 1 child out of every 1,000 who get measles will develop encephalitis (swelling of the brain) that can lead to convulsions and can leave the child deaf or with intellectual disability.

      Death. Nearly 1 to 3 of every 1,000 children who become infected with measles will die from respiratory and neurologic complications.

      And there’s more!

      https://www.cdc.gov/measles/symptoms/complications.html

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      Well just have to close the state borders and turn away planes from FL.

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      NO vaccine is 100% effective. The only reason they’re effective at all is due to the fact that most everyone has that vaccination. People are too goddamn dumb to realize this.

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      Also, anyone who’s ever flown to/from Orlando knows those planes have far more kids on them than the typical flight does. This outbreak is fortunately so far only in south Florida, but that doesn’t mean it will stay there. Just one infected kid going to a central Florida theme park could spread this around the country very rapidly.

      Oh, and spring break is what, a few weeks away? Good thing most colleges require proof of vaccination…

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    “When measles is detected in a school, it is normally recommended that individuals without history of prior infection or vaccination stay home for up to 21 days. This is the period of time that the virus can be transmitted,” Ladapo acknowledged in the letter, as reported by The Washington Post.

    But, he continued, “due to the high immunity rate in the community, as well as the burden on families and educational cost of healthy children missing school, DOH is deferring to parents or guardians to make decisions about school attendance.”

    “This recommendation may change as epidemiological investigations continue,” he added.

    https://people.com/florida-surgeon-general-goes-against-science-measles-outbreak-8600529

    This is the same anti-vaxxer nut who said:

    Ladapo alleges in his statement that “DNA integration poses a unique and elevated risk to human health” and the human genome, “including the risk that DNA integrated into sperm or egg gametes could be passed onto offspring of mRNA COVID-19 vaccine recipients.” He adds, “If the risks of DNA integration have not been assessed for mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, these vaccines are not appropriate for use in human beings.”

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-surgeon-general-covid-vaccines-fda-claims-misleading/

    Obviously, he was hand-picked by DeSantis.

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      Went to medical school, yet somehow doesn’t know the difference between RNA or DNA, or how transcription works. This isn’t crispr here, your body is bombarded with nucleic acids all the time.

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            I usually go with Hanlon’s Razor in these situations (never attribute to malice what can adequately attributed to stupidity), but I don’t believe DeSantis would go with a stupid Surgeon General. I think he would go with a Surgeon General he knew was corrupt enough to follow his agenda.

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              A different quote came to mind:

              It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!

              -Upton Sinclair, author of The Jungle

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              Fair enough. It’s hard to see a reason other than malice for his behavior regarding measles.

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        Been around a lot of Medical Dr’s (have a few friends from university).

        Your average Medical Dr’s is not a scientist. They are mostly diagnosticians. The follow the methods and guidelines developed by research scientist. As such they often have large holes in their understanding of how things work.

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          While most MD’s/DO’s aren’t researchers, they are very well represented among the clinical scientists who develop guidelines and methods. Guidelines can’t be applied in all cases, so understanding the underpinnings of the disease is still important. Most have also done research at some level at some point in their training, and interpretation of clinical research is a core part of medical education. And they get an extensive basic science curriculum in addition to studying clinical science.

          The issue he’s commenting on here though is the very basic central dogma of molecular biology, he would have learned this in undergrad and would have been tested on it medical school entrance exams before even getting accepted for more training. And of course a doctor needs a working understanding of genetics, there is genetic disease in every area of medicine. Florida’s surgeon general is just being deliberately misleading.

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    I guess we are in the fuck around and find out phase again. There were pandemics every few years from measles before the measles vaccine was introduced, and a lot of people died.

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      Yeah but do we reserve Florida? You don’t really believe that the measles will decide to stay within Florida borders now, do you?

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    There’s a lot of profit that comes out of someone seeking healthcare. Plus a sick worker can’t collect hourly wages, lowering expenses for business.

    Clearly this is a pro-business policy.

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    I’m guessing the parents of the dead kids will be suing Florida here.

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    Gonna enjoy watching these fuckin morons try to cling to their swamp kingdom while the water rises. Hopefully their ignorance kills off an amount of their would-be offspring.