• TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    This is why I got a cheap Aeropress and milk frother. I pay enough for my latte, and the barista makes as much as I do, stop judging me for not tipping. I tip servers, not counter workers.

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      9 months ago

      I don’t mind tipping for any hospitality service, but what I really hate about fast food and cafe tipping is that they often collect payment and push for a tip before the order was made incorrectly.

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        9 months ago

        That’s a good point. I also hate that about food delivery services. I tip my drivers well, but I don’t like that I’m often giving a good tip and not getting good service in return. If I’d have known I was going to get bad service, I would have tipped based on distance only and it would be significantly less.

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          9 months ago

          Sometimes it’s just a no win scenario, even with a refund it’s still a bunch of hoops to jump through just to be hungry and annoyed, but at no cost to you!

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            9 months ago

            Been there too! My place isn’t even that hard to find, but it pisses me off when my kids are looking forward to some Edo and it never comes. The refund is fine, but we’re still hungry and now it’s 8 pm, now what am I supposed to do?

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            9 months ago

            I can’t remember the last time I paid anything in cash that wasn’t my kids allowance. But on top of that Skip the Dishes ( I assume door dash too, but I used to drive for Skip so I can say them for sure) shows the driver how much they’ll make on the delivery and if they don’t like it they won’t accept it. If I’m paying in cash then all they’re being shown is the base distance rate and they’ll all deny it.

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          9 months ago

          Then they hand you a receipt from a printer that’s out of toner and you can’t even entertain the customer feedback route. It’ll dry up like the KFC and the Arby’s that occupied that lot before it.

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      9 months ago

      I’ve had my aeropress for years and have a love/hate relationship with it. I go on streaks that make incredible cups, followed by the worst cups of my life when I inevitably forget the ratios or change grinds. I really do like it and wish I could be a snob but I just settle for my Nespresso (when it isn’t broken and needing warranty replacement, again).

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        9 months ago

        You could like, write down the ratio and coffee brand and such

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          9 months ago

          I could but then I wouldn’t be able to justify my irrational need for a new coffee machine.

          To be fair though, I’ve written it down and tried that. Maybe it’s my perception that changes or the little unaccounted nuances add up to big differences. Right now, I have a bold Cuban batch from Key West that tastes like burnt plastic no matter the amount of water or brew time.

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      The baristas at the cafe my daughter and I usually go to (which is so good that even though it is half an hour away and one town over, we still go) are great. And really friendly. It’s not especially cheaper than anywhere else, but they have a decent selection of non-coffee drinks like smoothies and bubble tea for my daughter, a drink called a dirty chai which I really like for me (chai with a shot of espresso), and a lot of surprisingly good gluten-free pastries and cookies. We aren’t gluten-free and gluten-free baked goods that I’ve tried generally haven’t impressed me, but these aren’t bad. They also have gelato. Plus, a chill atmosphere and a lot of comfortable places to sit.

      If you’re ever going down I-70 through Illinois and pass by Marshall near the Indiana border, the Gypsy Queen Cafe is worth a stop, if for no other reason than to see a surprisingly upscale cafe for a tiny town in the middle of nowhere.

      Edit: The menu on the website is incomplete. So is the menu on their sign. It’s sort of distributed throughout the store. That’s the one thing I don’t like about it, but I’m used to it now.

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        9 months ago

        Sounds like a nice place! It’s cool that you have that near you. The 3rd wave places near me seem to think that coffee is the lifeblood from which all things sprout, and their attitudes generally suck. Their coffee is good though.

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          I think because they’re young and it’s a small town and there isn’t much there in terms of employment, they’re pretty happy to have one of the relatively few jobs there that don’t require an advanced education and also don’t suck ass.

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    We don’t really have this whole tipping thing here.

    I’ve had coffee in two places recently. One was in a hypermarket. I don’t remember what the coffee costs there, because it came free with the meal. If the restaurant staff feel they don’t get paid enough, I don’t care if they get inspiration from France and torch every car in the parking lot. You see, I go to the hypermarket by foot. It’s not that far away.

    The other place I had coffee recently was in the train. 2.80€. I certainly hope the restaurant car staff gets paid well. They’re technically railroad employees, after all. You don’t fuck with railroad workers.

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      I’ve never heard the term “hypermarket” before today, but according to Google that’s what these type of stores have been called since 1968 lol!

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    Oh I’m sorry, I thought America was all about turning the bull loose and protecting our beloved economy in its current form at all costs.

    Actions have consequences. An economy designed for infinite growth/metastasis on a very finite world has consequences. We’ve only just begun to feel the consequences of our not merely tolerance, but encouragement of insatiable, unaccountable greed.

    Buckle up. The price of lattes will be the least of our worries. Another 10 years and Chocolate and Coffee will probably be priced out for us capital batteries. Don’t worry though, they’ll make some cancer causing substitute that’s a third as satisfying for half the price. Be sure to CONSUME it.

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      Make sure you have your “I got cancer from sugar substitute” insurance paid up! That won’t be covered any other way! Easy and convenient payment plans start at just $195 paid every alternate 9 days! At that price you can’t afford not to get it!!!

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    The barista can ask their manager. If I have to come to you, that tip option doesn’t mean shit. Then I leave a 1 star review

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    9 months ago

    Most of the shops got it got $8 but I van imagine some of the “fancy” shop could sell it for $12

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      9 months ago

      And that’s definitely just for specialty drinks, usually an up charge for additions and substitutes.

      Black coffee vs a triple shot frappe with protein powder, oat milk, lavender mint syrup, on a raft, four-by-four animal-style, extra shingles with a shimmy and a squeeze, light axle grease, make it cry, burn it, and let it swim.

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    9 months ago

    That’s weird. My coffee is way cheaper at Dunkin Donuts and it’s counter service so I don’t fucking tip them.

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    I tip every time I’m at a sit-down restaurant, and infrequently at other places (mostly local places, to keep them afloat - they have it harder than the food chains). That being said, if they want us to tip for just food prep and cooking, maybe make the food half-off, then we can tip them if the food is better than we thought? $5 burger…It was really good, I guess I will give them $9. $5 burger that is crap, well, it stays a $5 burger.

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        I mean, that works too I guess. But, if they insist on asking for tips, that’s the only way I’m tipping at a no-service restaurant.

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      9 months ago
      Coffee: $10
      Service fee: $3.50
      Toilet fee: $1.50
      Tip (we recommend 125-250%): -$20
      Credit card fee (10% of total):-$0.50
      Total:-$5.50
      
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    They’ll keep it up as long as business is good. If people will pay 12$ for a latte and lines are out the door, and there are no regulations to stop price gouging and predatory behavior, why wouldn’t they?

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      why wouldn’t they?

      It’s not even a matter of “why wouldn’t they,” do much as a matter of they must.

      Absent of regulations, any company that doesn’t abandon every conceivable human moral in pursuit of more profit will find itself hopelessly out-competed by the ones that do. If your every competitor is charging $12 for a latte and paying their employees starvation wages, and you charge a reasonable amount and pay your employees a decent wage, then every hour you’re in business your competitors will be making more money than you, and you will always fall behind, unless something comes along to close that gap.

      Libertarians might try to say that eventually the free market will close the gap, but adults know otherwise. The free market doesn’t give a shit about human decency, the environment, the value of mom and pop businesses, or any of that. The free market can only ever want to make more money, every year, at a faster rate of increase, every year. Forever.

      Government is the only thing that can reasonably account for how things should be. Regulations are the only reason we don’t have 80 hour work weeks and children in the mines.

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      Oh there are definitely laws to stop price gauging but that’s for small businesses and individuals who aren’t rich.

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      Lattes aren’t essential. Charging $12 for one is neither predatory nor price gouging. It’s arguably exploitatative but I don’t feel it’s our job to tell people they’re not allowed to waste their own money.

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        Acting on “what the market will bear” instead of what at cost as well as labour is predatory in that it is opportunistic in the basic definition of what makes predatory behaviour predatory. It is also gouging as it is setting a price range that can be considered exclusionary. And then to also attack a customer who feels this and speaks it can be considered victim blaming as you’re enabling these behaviours by dismissing the feedback of the victim, which again is being exclusionary by enforcing their money to be taken but not allowing they can be part of the feedback or setting boundaries of what is happening to them.

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          When you call someone choosing to buy a $12 latte a victim it makes everything else you say impossible to take seriously.

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            you use ‘choice’ like $3 latte is an option. You’re bent on manipulating people so it’s hard to take you seriously.

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              You can get a latte at Dunkin donuts for $2.69 or McDonald’s for $1. Or, and this is going to blow your mind, you can live without lattes. We’re not talking about insulin ffs. How fucking entitled are you talking about a luxury item like it’s a necessity lmao

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    Image Transcription: Twitter Post


    Chris Bakke, @ChrisJBakke

    The year is 2024.

    You walk into your local coffee shop. A latte costs $12.

    You have the choice of tipping 75%, 95%, or 125%.

    You sheepishly tap “75%” and feel bad about yourself.

    The barista shakes his head in disgust.

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    I got a chai tea latte from a chain called Scooter’s yesterday. Six bucks. For some milk and tea. Fucking highway robbery.

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      Yet you bought it. If nobody bought it then he wouldn’t sell.

      Scooter would have to go back to living in a van, solving mysteries with 3 other strangers and a dog.