I think I’ve settled on the latter. Disagreement is maybe best communicated by the absence of an upvote? And downvotes work best when they signal something that is just off base, and while not reportable, is not appreciated at a broad cultural level.

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    Those of us on kbin can see who up/downvotes. I’ve noticed, anecdotally, that once this became more wildly known, there have been fewer downvotes that mean “I disagree”, with them mostly being used on troll posts or obviously bigoted posts.

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      I’m aware of that and I like that behavior.

      I’m also wary of potential downsides though. I think in smaller communities it could be a problem because people might start fights with each other when they check who downvoted them. But I’m not sure, at least now we have a good test environment on kbin, and so far it seems to be beneficial based on what you’re saying.

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        I think it’s overall good. A vote is no longer an anonymous action-- it’s personal, just like leaving a comment supporting or disagreeing would be. While I don’t think it would ever be appropriate to harass a person because they up/down voted something, I do think people should have to make the mental calculation about whether they’re willing to have any specific up or down vote available for anyone to see.

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          I think it’s done more good than harm and don’t want to see them anonymized again… but I do have to say I’ve found myself withholding a downvote that I think was completely justifiable and deserved because I didn’t want to be the first and only one and get shit for it.

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            I guarantee it won’t be long before communities begin using this information.

            Remember on Reddit how many subs would prematurely ban any accounts that participated in subs they disliked? That was entirely driven by the users, not the platform. Imagine if they had your voting information too.

            I predict we’ll start seeing throwaway accounts for voting, to disassociate your voting records from your posting persona.

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            This is kind of why, I feel like it is a bad thing. People can’t vote normally or are afraid to do so in a way.

            Some won’t use the vote system to avoid possible trouble (arguments, downvoting back etc).

            I personally have started to care way less about the upvote and downvote stuff. Reddit made it clear to me that it means nothing.

            It just internet points and if something goes wrong, it’s all gone anyway.