• Daft_ish@lemmy.world
          10·
          11 months ago

          To me the most annoying part is everyone is so entrenched in youtube they either need to accept its a service they should pay for or start looking at migrating. There cant be any viable alternative if there isn’t an audience.

    • jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev
      88·
      11 months ago

      What’s happened to YouTube? It’s been more or less the same experience for me.

      Unless this is about ads? But tbh i don’t even consider that to be remotely on the same scale as the issues with Reddit and Twitter

      • Meowoem@sh.itjust.works
        121·
        11 months ago

        They have a few problems like demoneytising for arbitrary reasons, over zealous moderation on some topics and almost zero on others - I think things are starting to relax a bit but there was a time where history channels would avoid saying the word Hitler or Nazi in their documentary about ww2. Likewise if a film or news story has someone ‘commit the unthinkable’ and ‘unalive themselves’ it can make hard topics much more difficult.

        There’s a lot of engagement spam too, so many channels doing fake restorations, fake pool building, fake animal rescues… Then the ones which just have an ai voice reading fake stories from Reddit, chat gpt gibberish, or awful old jokes copy pasted from old books.

        There is amazing content too though of course and I think it’s by far the best place to get entertainment and education resources

      • Arello@sopuli.xyz
        3·
        11 months ago

        At least they’ve had (bad) attempts at blocking adblockers recently. Search function has became almost unusable etc.

      • pastbynow@lemmy.world
        2·
        11 months ago

        There are multiple workarounds for YouTube ads like Revanced on Android for example. On Computer I didn’t encounter any issues for using the uBlock Origin extension.

  • KptnAutismus@lemmy.world
    671·
    11 months ago

    we have alternatives to both. people just need to switch.

    but youtube is really hard to replace.

    • 768@sh.itjust.works
      13·
      11 months ago

      Don’t worry, there’s TikTok. /s

      SEO might actually enshittificate YT or make it dependant on AI. Both are hard to deal with from a privacy or open source POV.

    • Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world
      9·
      11 months ago

      Nebula.tv has some promise. It’s not free but it’s very cheap and creator-owned. Plus there’s no ads. But it can never be a true replacement for Youtube because it doesn’t allow just anyone to upload there.

    • Opafi@feddit.de
      6·
      11 months ago

      What about Peertube as an alternative?

      Like, I use neither. Just curious.

      • Cowbee@lemm.ee
        4·
        11 months ago

        Newpipe is great, for me. I don’t have a steady stream of recommendations or shorts, just content I actually subscribe to and whatever is trending if I go there, or manually search for.

        The infection of ads into every corner of Social media legitimately was making me a worse person, with a shorter attention span and no mental clarity.

    • credit crazy@lemmy.world
      162·
      11 months ago

      Wouldn’t exactly say fashisim is to blame but rather simply corpos want maximize profit on a hinherently unprofitable business models. Like I’m personally not seeing much ideology getting pushed anywhere. Granted I hardly spend time on Twitter but all I’ve been seein on x is furry tits and on the other platforms just ads getting pushed. From what I can tell you can say what ever and no one will hear you over the ads.

  • satans_crackpipe@lemmy.world
    25·
    11 months ago

    Call me paranoid, but a ton of money is at stake over platforms that used to be useful in terms of spreading information. And they’re both being tanked at the same time? During heightening ‘geopolitical tensions’? And in the face of a strange upcoming election in the United States where both platforms started and are based?

    • Lvxferre@lemmy.ml
      10·
      11 months ago

      Perhaps, in Twitter’s case. I don’t know.

      In Reddit’s case it’s simply a moron aping another; I don’t think that Huffman has the depth of thought necessary to evaluate the impact of his own actions.

      • alekwithak@lemmy.world
        22·
        11 months ago

        Twitter is bought out by a raging right-wing sociopath who literally coups other countries for resources, purposefully affects public policy at every opportunity, and habitually pumps n’ dumps crypto and stocks, and you think it’s impossible for him to have destroyed the platform that used to be the international commons on purpose??? Please justify your reasoning, I can’t wait.

        • Lvxferre@lemmy.ml
          3·
          11 months ago

          and you think it’s impossible for him to have destroyed the platform that used to be the international commons on purpose???

          Don’t be a liar. Or worse, assumptive trash eager to put words onto the others’ mouths.

          I did not say anything remotely interpretable as that. I literally said “Perhaps, in Twitter’s case. I don’t know.”

          Please justify your reasoning, I can’t wait.

          I’m not justifying the claim that you’re lying (or assuming) that I made.

          Please go back to Reddit, where assumptiveness and illiteracy are praised and cheered.

          [I apologise to other users in this community for my tone, but I think that it’s warranted here.]

          • alekwithak@lemmy.world
            4·
            11 months ago

            Apologies, I suppose. I read it as “perhaps, except in Twitters case.”

            I won’t go back to Reddit, but I will lay down, do some reflecting, and cry a bit. Cheers!

            • Lvxferre@lemmy.ml
              2·
              11 months ago

              Apologies, I suppose. I read it as “perhaps, except in Twitters case.”

              Apology accepted. I also apologise for the tone.

              If you want my opinion on Twitter: I’m not too informed on the platform but I think that he did it on purpose, and due to stupidity. He is a right-wing sociopath and a moron with enough money to become too big to fail.

              A smart but malicious person in Musk’s shoes would’ve likely introduced the changes slowly, boiling the frogs there, shifting the Overton window to the right, in a way that benefits rich people in detriment to everyone else - because that would benefit Musk himself. Twitter as “the international commons” makes it valuable for anyone to spread shitty discourses there, in a way that they reach governments directly.

              But instead of seizing the tool for his own purposes, he broke it.

    • MjolnirThyme@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      5·
      11 months ago

      I’m going Hanlon’s Razor on the motive with everyone else here but the fact these platforms were so important to the last election and a failure to capture that influence is the reason they are sinking now. Anyone with a plan is definitely not succeeding and I’m not buying that any of this is 4D chess.

  • Dark Arc@social.packetloss.ggEnglish
    17·
    11 months ago

    I’m colorblind so I could be way off… But it looks like the red one is Twitter and the blue one is Reddit which just seems ironic lol

  • Meowoem@sh.itjust.works
    103·
    11 months ago

    I think rich people are working really hard to try and get the republicans in power next election, that should probably tell you all you need to know about how to vote

  • greenhorn@lemm.eeEnglish
    5·
    11 months ago

    I more likes on my tweets than ever since Elon took over! …And the increase is all bots.

    • sbv@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      213·
      11 months ago

      to be where the people are?

      I love the idea of our little corner of the Internet, but it doesn’t have the content or the users of the incumbents.

      • MimicJar@lemmy.world
        91·
        11 months ago

        Conceptually I get what you’re saying, but I’ve never used Twitter and I dropped Reddit in July cold turkey.

        I have had no issues being where the people are just sticking to the Fediverse.

        I don’t feel like I’ve missed anything. I did pick up Mastodon, but that’s just lurking. I picked up a few news apps to fill in a blank or two, but those usually end up on Lemmy anyway.

            • Buelldozer@lemmy.today
              61·
              11 months ago

              Trump and more generally Conservative bashing has been blaring out of Reddit at top volume since the 2016 elections and every election cycle they find new ways to make it even louder and more obnoxious. This year’s moderator exodus really had nothing to do with it. Yes Trump and many Conservatives should be beamed directly to a secret underground moon base and held incommunicado until their natural deaths but the fact that the conversation can’t ever be shifted to anything else is so tiring.

          • baked_tea@lemmy.world
            23·
            11 months ago

            Well what you described isn’t too different here… except there is more hardcore tankies here

            • SpookyUnderwear@eviltoast.orgEnglish
              12·
              11 months ago

              I love Lemmy users bashing on Reddit as if Lemmy is any better. Both are pretty authoritarian left. Though I don’t have enough experience here to speak to the moderation, but given time I’m sure it’ll be just as bad.

    • SpookyUnderwear@eviltoast.orgEnglish
      22·
      11 months ago

      Easy. Twitter is where my metal homies are. Reddit for baseball. I don’t care about the political angle of each. That’s not why I’m there.