Ugh, have you met my Mama?
(I’m joking of course, I dislike neither her nor immigrants generally)
Can I?
Can we?
Be my guest, but I’m warning you now, she’d wipe the floor with you.
It could be a perspective thing. Children of immigrants possibly don’t see themselves as immigrants or even adjacent.
One other thought I had was about trust fund kids thinking they “worked as hard as anyone else” for their riches. For example, I remember when Bezos was building Amazon. He certainly did work hard to build that site, but the benefits of the loan his parents provided cannot be overlooked or forgotten. Same thing with Elon… most rich people, for that matter.
Raised by immigrant grandparents here, parents were born here. They don’t care. My parents have zero concept of what immigrant challenges my grandparents faced.
Dad is immigrant. Boy does he HATE immigrants.
Its the old “pull ladder up” thing I think.
They feel they suffered more than the other ones do.
Because they came in legally and those who didn’t should leave. Never mind that the folks who came legally were privileged, and those who didn’t, didn’t have that same flexibility of time and money to do it legally.
Cuban here, like many others have said “burning the ladder behind you”
but adding to it. In my opinion it has to do with seeing a reflection of your past self and associating the difference with positive progress then being disgusted by your own struggle and putting that emotion on your next of kin.
Yes it’s frustrating to be born in a third world country and have to come legally in a raft and have to work for under minimum wage for multiple years to be able to afford even the most basic necessities … but it’s important to remember where you come from and to use that disgust to make the world a better place so that no one else has to go thru the same.
Same sentiment people have towards homeless people that were born in the US
Pulling the ladder up behind you is a fundamental and ugly part of human nature
But even the terminology suggests you’re coming from a lower place. So wouldn’t it make sense that the people from the place you’re coming from have some responsibility for the state it was in. Like how right now we’re seeing a decline in American culture and increase in corruption. It was voted in by Americans. So if Americans were to all of a sudden immigrate to say Canada to get away, wouldn’t they fucking hate it if other Americans who voted for Republicans start following them because of the opportunity.
This is so obviously not true, how did it get so many upvotes? There are so many counterexamples. The only “fundamental part” of human nature is that humans are adaptable to different environments, including our shitty racist society.
This is borderline misanthropic too, which is cringe as hell
This is nothing more than a thought terminating cliche. As such, it’s completely worthless.
Edit: lol…funny how y’all talking about…nothing at all ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I find the most thought terminating cliche is calling something a thought terminating cliche.
did you just…?
Did they terminate a thought with a cliché?
Are we in some Russian doll situation here…?
Yeah, but they think they’re clever for saying it
I was merely pointing out that people suck
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no u
Funny how it comes after your comment… 🤷🏻♂️
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they got theirs, fuck everyone who comes after. literally pulling the ladder up behind themselves
I grew up in the Midwest as a child of a Mexican and American. By 16, I was regurgitating Ben Shapiro anti-immigration rhetoric. Why?
The same reason anyone is racist. I grew up around it. The people I knew and loved were white and that was reflected in the media I was exposed to. Subliminal messages and implied suggestions over entire childhood. They might claim they don’t like the illegal, but the truth is that they’ve internalized the hatred of the culture they identify with.
I don’t understand why this comment is so low. As an immigrant myself who migrated when I was very young, the answer of internalized racism is very obvious to me. It took me almost 25 years to fully open my eyes to the racist beliefs I had internalized growing up, and even being aware of it now, it takes an awful lot of self-work to unlearn certain things.
I suspect that it might be some form of hidden feeling of guilt.
people immigrate here, and feel guilty for intruding. then, they take up some form of anti-immigrant sentiment as a form of self-punishment?
Depending on where they’re immigrating from, there can be bigotry internal to the source culture that they bring with them. For example the Indian caste system. From the outside we just see people from India, but there’s a ton we’re missing.
It’s always baffled me. As the grandchild of an immigrant I’ve always felt it was only right to welcome in the folks who want so badly to be one of us.
It’s like people that come from poor backgrounds that vote to make it harder for people to level up…I’m assuming it’s a similar line of thinking.
Yes exactly this. I know a few people who are 2nd or 3rd generation immigrant and they don’t give a shit about other immigrants at all. All voted for Trump and all day that they will never be deported because they voted for Donny. And a few of them have said they will be more then happy to help ice deport other immigrants even if it’s there neighbor.
Empathy is just gone
Agreed
Do immigrants even like other immigrants? They’re basically competition