That’s 3 countries and Palestine, which is also a country in my book.
“Defense”
Iran will win this war.
Defense contractors will win, we will be poorer and Iranians will be slaughtered by the millions.
They don’t stand a chance.
What will the USA and Israel do? Bomb them to death and? Invade? Without an army in the ground you can’t really win. Which of their lackeys can they send, the turks? The saudis? Good luck with that.
Take out the Iranian regime that’s holding their country hostage and Iranians will do the rest themselves.
Wonder if this is what the US missiles redirected from Ukraine went to….
There isn’t a dearth of missiles. This is just another convenient excuse to weaken Ukraine.
Lol, but the media keeps saying… "Trump was against this! He was trying to work with Iran "
The Zionist regime is a rogue state. It threatens the security of mankind.
Unfortunately it also has the backing of a much larger rogue state.
Israel doing something good for once
Finally.
Is this going to lead to WW3?
Will not, world war cost a lot for the country involved, this might just be another regional war and proxy war combined.
Pretty sure this is WW3. Just more like FFA rather than teams.
Someone please explain why two middle eastern states trying to annihilate each other is WW3.
Don’t forget Ukraine and Russia. That’s why it’s more FFA.
I mean yeah, democratic decline, dwindling ressources and climate change are putting the world on a path to a lot more conflict. This is going to be the new normal going forward if we don’t manage to stop the underlying problems. Doesn’t mean there will be a massive world war, but it definitely means there will be more significant wars.
Are they running out of people to murder in Gaza? Or do they just need someone to fight back, so they can look oppressed?
The moment they stop fighting is the moment they have to collectively come to terms with what they have done as a nation. Netanyahoo has to keep it going.
Netanyahoo lmao
The US is obligated by law, to keep sending them weapons in order to maintain a “qualitative military edge” against all potential threats. This unfortunately incentivizes Israel to maintain a high threat level, in order to increase the amount of weapons it receives.
“By law”. It’s just a convenient excuse for genocidal immorality. It’s not like words on paper matter to anyone in power in the West, you’d definitely be blind to think otherwise.
You had me in the first sentence; not gonna lie. The second one, though, just goes off the rails.
“The West” is a bit too broad don’t you think.
I think that’s blinkered, if not blind. Definitely.
And that username… (edit: oh look they just changed it from “ArgumentativeMonotheist” to “YappyMonotheist”)
But being a horny mouse is a-okay?!
The US is obligated by law,
Yea, that’s a law we passed, right? One which we could repeal, too?
obligated by law, to keep sending them weapons
Can you expand on that?
There are agreements but to which extent are they binding? I guess they are not unconditional.
This explains it in better detail than I could. It isn’t so much a single law, but rather a lot of different laws that all work together to ensure that Israel is given everything it could possibly need for its own defense…even bypassing normal regulatory measures in the process, as long as certain conditions are maintained.
Israel has invested tens of millions of dollars lobbying for, and helping to write, the legislation that guarantees their continuous access to weapons. A lot of it is written directly into defense spending bills that are essential for domestic defense spending as well. So, without a massive shift in policy at the legislative level to disentangle those priorities, that support is legally binding.
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Welcome to Whose war is it anyway?
Neither. Internal politics in Israel threatened to break up the government, and starting a war with Iran was the easiest way to stop that. Can’t break up the government now, we’re in a state of emergency!
Bibi would sooner burn down all of Israel than step down from power.
Yep, exactly this. He’d rather destroy the entire country than lose power, in part because as soon as he loses power he’s likely going to prison for the rest of his life.
Sounds familiar…
Anyone else shitting themselves about this?
Crazy that within just a couple weeks Ukraine and now Israel have successfully smuggled drones into a country. Terrifying new vector of war.
Nowhere mentioned that israel used smuggled drones.
Sorry I read that in a different report here: https://apnews.com/article/iran-explosions-israel-tehran-00234a06e5128a8aceb406b140297299
Israel’s military said about 200 aircraft were involved in the initial attack on about 100 targets. Two security officials said the country’s Mossad spy agency was also able to position explosive drones inside Iran ahead of time and then activate them to target missile launchers at an Iranian base near Tehran.
“They have backed up their genocidal rhetoric with a program to develop nuclear weapons.”
Netanyahu’s not in the best position to accuse others of genocidal rhetoric backed up with powerful weaponry.
No need to change nukes to weaponry, Israel has nukes too.
It’s good old Projection: every accusation is an admission.
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Just like those weapons of mass destruction, way back when in Iraq? I’m shocked, I say, shocked!
Iran’s nuclear program is well documented though.
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I don’t think that allegation has been made, just that they have began the process of building a bomb.
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I don’t think that allegation is completely implausible. Although it will probably be impossible to independently verify for a number of years.
The U.S. intelligence community assesses that Iran is not actively pursuing a nuclear weapon
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UN nuclear watchdog finds Iran in breach of non-proliferation obligations for first time in 20 years
The IAEA flagged that Iran had amassed more near-weapons-grade uranium in its May 31 confidential report.
The report sternly warned Iran was now “the only non-nuclear-weapon state to produce such material” — something the agency said was of “serious concern”.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-12/iaea-finds-iran-in-breach-its-nuclear-obligations/105411014
Aw.
Did we get too close to getting along again?
You think Iran, the country that supplies weapons to
I think I don’t like war. Period.
I can realistically understand the reasons given for it, but that’s never going to make me like it.
Trump started all this shit when he ruined the last nuclear deal in his first term.
He sure is great at fucking everything up, and sowing chaos.
Here are the global knock-on effects of Trumpism. The world has been afraid of this for years. And mind you, it’s not because the USA is losing its grip, its role of world police. It’s because of fucked-up diplomacy dominated by egomania, backing the wrong allies in the wrong way. And being so dumb that you’re easily exploitable.
I’m sorry for once again seeing every conflict through USian eyes - Americans do that well enough by themselves - but in this case it’s just true. Fuck Trump, Fuck Netanyahu. Let’s hope this nightmare ends soon.
From the article:
A U.S. official told CNN that the United States had no involvement or assistance in the Israeli strikes
Um, sure. No involvement at all during the last 8 decades.
And Netanyahu:
“This is a clear and present danger to Israel’s very survival. 80 years ago the Jewish people were the victims of a holocaust perpetrated by the Nazi regime. Today, the Jewish state refuses to be a victim of a nuclear holocaust, perpetrated by the Iranian regime.”
Of course they stick to that one however nonsensical it has become, considering Israel is the Nazi regime now, inflicting its own holocaust on others.
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Can’t keep himself from bragging even as his PR people try to tone it down.
You make it sound like slavish devotion to Israel isn’t bipartisan.
Because the State department policy is bipartisan because the hegemony is bipartisan
