Honestly, this is the argument to make. Almost every human is selfish when it comes to a strangers convenience or theirs. Make the argument that it’ll be more convenient to drive with bikes out of the way, and that sidewalks will be safer (almost everyone walks every once in a while). I’ve convinced people this way, but never with explaining the safety, let alone city livability or environmental reasons.
There’s no reason for bike lanes to be side by side car roads. Bikes don’t need the same level of turn rate or intersections at all
Like my commuter road in oslo takes me about 30 minutes, and is only next to the road for a km or two. Even then it’s not in the road, but on an elevated track next to it. Most of the time it’s an entirely separate route, shared with pedestrians.
As a car-brain it would be really nice if I knew bikes weren’t going to be in my lane. Then I know I could go faster.
Honestly, this is the argument to make. Almost every human is selfish when it comes to a strangers convenience or theirs. Make the argument that it’ll be more convenient to drive with bikes out of the way, and that sidewalks will be safer (almost everyone walks every once in a while). I’ve convinced people this way, but never with explaining the safety, let alone city livability or environmental reasons.
Bike lanes might help insure this.
I don’t think they provide insurance, but I do think that’s what the previous commenter was saying it’d ensure. You’re most likely in agreement.
You just need to properly segregate them
There’s no reason for bike lanes to be side by side car roads. Bikes don’t need the same level of turn rate or intersections at all
Like my commuter road in oslo takes me about 30 minutes, and is only next to the road for a km or two. Even then it’s not in the road, but on an elevated track next to it. Most of the time it’s an entirely separate route, shared with pedestrians.
“Paint is not infrastructure” is a catchy tagline
Ugh this isn’t entirely related, but as someone who walks a lot, I hate these. If you’re already building infrastructure, why not separate it.
It’s wide roads, the optimal is obviousely dedicated bike routes, but you really can’t make pedestrians not walk on them
The best they can do is like, paint them up with a bike section and a pedestrian section.
Honestly it’s not been an issue so far
Yes, that would be awesome
I think that’s their point.