• qyron@sopuli.xyz
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    12 days ago

    Try giving people the means to live a dignified life, with proper housing and food security, and wait a while.

    The population won’t boom but people will be more at ease to consider having children.

    Most even want to have children. Unfortunately, they can’t because they have a consciousness.

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      12 days ago

      We have that in the Nordics, yet our birth rates are also falling.

      I’m thinking the chants about the planet dying and the children not having a future might have some relevance.

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            12 days ago

            Opinions vary.

            My parents faced the same doubts, as their parents did and so on. As I did.

            Our problems are not new. We are not special or unique.

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              I doubt your parents were concerned about climate change, microplastics, and the fact that a kid born today will barely be in their 20’s when ocean life collapses. you can think none of this is special if you really want to, if nothing else these conditions are just exponentially worse.

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                11 days ago

                Thank you for that excellent example. No, ocean life won’t collapse in 20 years. This is not a “climate denier” statement - it’s the current actual state of science.

                There are however a lot of “doomist” headlines spread by activists and activist media that exaggerate - a lot - and that’s indeed part of why I think young people hesitate in starting families.

                (I’m of the generation that grew up thinking we’d all die due to nuclear armaggedon)

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                12 days ago

                Global conflicts, famines, droughts, authoritarian governments, desertification, high unemployment, low salaries…

                Our problems are not unique. Every single generation had their own version of the same life problems.

                I respect your position but I do not subscribe it.