• don@lemm.ee
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    Cons are the stupidest fucks this side of alpha fucking centauri.

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    Okay sure, I’m on his side, but that was hardly a burn. Shit wasn’t clever at all, coulda sent her to the burn ward but settled for a rug burn

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      yeah.

      how about stopping the fascists instead of clapping back (badly) at them in a nazi social network, just so some people in the dem bubble can froth at the mouth from it.

      i also wonder why they crop off the likes and stuff from these posts. maybe they don’t want people to notice these responses are barely even getting seen either.

      this is just social media garbage slop without any substance at all.

      at least put the name of that removed in the title so i can filter it the fuck out of my feed instead of making me see what these stupid and irrelevant usian puppets have to say.

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    Meaning, she at least recognizes that more education = less radical views? Which is… counter her point of indoctrination.

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    The fuck does she think indoctrination means? Oh that’s right, they’ve long given up arguing in good faith. There is no rational point to be made, I always forget that.

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    But no point if the education system doesn’t want to teach you but get you more ready for the work force.

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      People say this all the time like it’s some edgy gotcha.

      And while Public education in the United States did really come to full fruition during the industrial revolution, and does do a lot to prepare a person for the workforce, noting not all school are the same…

      …I am fully greatful my little rural New England School did a good job teaching me critical thinking. I really loved learning as I grew up and had many fantastic teachers.

      To note, over the last 25 years, education funding, for whatever reason, is funded…but poorly. My son is in middle school, I’ve noticed he doesn’t have music class. They have a band and chorus as extracurriculars, but no music theory/history class like I did. I was the last class group to take home economics, and there is no computer class either. Every kid has a Chromebook, but no one is watching a Sweeny Todd on stage, or picking a composer to write a report on. No kid is sewing a teddy bear or making pizza cookies, and they don’t have general computer instruction. My son is in special education, so it’s hard to gauge one to one, but I definitely feel like his quality of education is less than when I was in middle school 25 years ago, especially when we look at “specials”, for what its worth. And this disappoints me.

      But education as I see, is not “just to get you ready for the workforce” though that is part of it. A lot of teachers really care, and try to help kids find joy in learning, even still today. Well rounded schooling is important for children to become individuals with the power of critical thought beyond the scope of preparing them to work in a factory.

      School where I went, and were my son goes, definitely fit “you get out what you put in”.

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        I am fully greatful my little rural New England School did a good job teaching me critical thinking. I really loved learning as I grew up and had many fantastic teachers.

        To note, over the last 25 years, education funding, for whatever reason, is funded…but poorly

        they coulda spent a lil more time on spelling, grammar, punctuation, and composition tbqph. like cmon bro you had to override the spellcheck on greatful.

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          t(T)hey coulda(‘ve) spent a lil(ttle) more time on spelling, grammar, punctuation, and composition tbqph(quite is redundant). like c(C’)mon(,) bro(;) you had to override the spellcheck on (“)greatful.(”)

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            you think lil is spelled with 2 ts? idk bro i feel like wed say the ts if they was in the word. my favorite is rejecting quite while accepting acronymization

            edit: also quite is superfluous, not redundant

            edit2: wait what does breathless mean in this context? I’m not breathing between sentences? is that insulting? am i insulted now?

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                you assume a challenge where none exists. like, you fr think im being 💯 about spelling and grammar n shit? im not even using capitals? like, i also had to override spell check a lot? … lil wasnt enough of a clue? cmon take a breath homie

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                  Thank you for having such a telling username. I hate feeling unsure about blocking someone who may say something noteworthy in the future.

                  No such doubt exists here.

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          I’ve turned off my spell check from my phone to practice. I hope to keep my mind sharp.

          (Edit: greatful, grateful, is the bane of my existence since I was young, thanks for reminding me. Im not grate-ful like a flood grate in the road, I’m great-ful. The root word great- means good, happy. The root word grate- makes me think if a metal contraption in the road. This is why my brain does that. I disagree with the root word formation lmao)

          I have ADHD, and probably a bit of dyslexia (yes, I still have talk to text on, and used it to spell that word), I’ve learned as I’ve helped my son with his learning disabilities.

          I was able to mask and struggle through school undetected, my son not so much.

          I got tired of computer programming telling me what word I should type next, autocorrecting words I didnt want it to, and a few months ago turned all that off.

          This is a casual place, so I wrote casually and didn’t edit my paragraphs much for such. Sorry if anything was unclear to you. I’m also sorry you felt the need to punch down on another fellow human.

          Read an old book from 1850-1900. The grammar in those books will give you a panic attack. Be easy

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        Not as long as the industrial complex is the most important thing to our society. You treat special cases but on average it’s a workforce. You know the Ontario government has an investment plan for higher education because society financially benefits from more intelligent people?

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          Not as long as the industrial complex is the most important thing to our society.

          Well, it’s not. We outsourced the bulk of our heavy industry to East Asia 30 years ago.

          Now the most important thing to our society is sales and marketing.

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          I dont see how the industrial complex is the most important thing to our society, here in the states.

          I do see a cultural tendency to associate wealth with success. A notion that confuses me and I dont subscribe to, however is very prevalent here.

          In the early 2000 the focus was college prep. College was marketed as the average persons line to success (wealth).

          Today I think a lot of teachers are just trying to get through the day. The United States education, in my area, seemed to have peaked when I was in school. When the Bush administration passed the “no child left behind” act… I’ve since watched education go in the shitter. It should have been called “pass every student no matter what”. Also around 2010 they switched from teaching 5/6 year olds phonics and instead tried “sight words” for a time. A massive failure. I believe they have gone back to phonics now, I hope.

          In the states, schools sign contracts with tech companies to supply chrombooks to each student, but like I mentioned, dont teach music composition anymore. Students of today, it’s been noted to me by professionals I work with, absolutely have less tolerance for difficult things than the students 20 years ago. But in my discussions, it’s not evident why. Even children with low/no/modersted screen time stuggle with task tolerance. So I don’t know.

          I do know my state (2nd or 3rd state in the country for quality of k-12 education) now has public community college education available for free, or nearly nothing. Ive seen the flyers and buildings, I don’t know much about it, but I’m proud my state is offering alternatives to the large expensive universities. They are trying very hard to invest in the the everyday person here.

          Just lay off “school is just a place you are trained to be a worker” alluding it is not important or meaningful outside of training machine cogs. It’s a juvenile thought made with little consideration to other invaluable educational experiences within childhood education. The purpose of school is to have an intelligent, healthy society capable of critical thought so that we may uphold democracy and society as a whole. Have we swayed from this in the last 10,15, 20 years? A good question. But I’ve heard the school/worker machines comment for longer than that.

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    I may agree with Olbermann here but let’s not forget:

    Yes I know my enemies

    They’re the teachers who taught me to fight me

    Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission

    Ignorance, hypocrisy, brutality, the elite

    All of which are American dreams

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      Came on shuffle the other day and inspired me to pickup the guitar for a couple hours and annoy the crap out of my kid

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      Tbh it’s the first time I see her name (iirc), and thanks to that everything, including the answer she received, was “amusing” to me.

      She pretty much sounds like any of the current right-wing populists and anarchocapitalists. This is an american trend, sadly winning force everywhere… This meme is fully on-topic across the western world :(

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        I don’t know if it’s winning force so much as it’s being spread by bots and bad actors, although the result is more or less the same. Flooding the zone with their rhetoric makes it look like it’s well supported, which in turns convinces some people that it might not be nonsense.

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    Federally funded school from age 3 to 20 doesn’t sound like education

    Yes it does, you bleached Wookie, it sounds exactly like education.

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      She’s already 6B on the floor since she engaged in personalities bashing Crockett on the floor.

      Said something about Jasmine Crockett’s ‘fake eyelashes getting in the way’ so she called her bad built bleach blond butch body

      I felt there was a 7th b but she drew the line to not escalate.

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    Schools are for indoctrinating children, guys. Train them to fight their biology, conform to a factory setting, and have knowledge presented as something frustrating and difficult obtain. You guys just want them indoctrinated the “correct way” from teachers s stupid and out of date as you are.

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      There’s absolutely truth to the argument that our school system is moreso obedience training than education, but this is not the time for that battle

      …especially considering that the alt-right is responsible for removing civics classes, cutting school resources, and is just going to replace public schools with a more regressive, christo-fascist schools where staff can beat and sexually abuse children… like in private christo-fascist schools.

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        Shit’s a game dawg. We just got a fucking bully problem. Convincing me aint doing shit. Check on your neighbor and carry a fucking brick.

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      Hmmm, let’s see.

      The history of education, like other history, extends at least as far back as the first written records recovered from ancient civilizations. Historical studies have included virtually every nation.

      The earliest known formal school was developed in Egypt’s Middle Kingdom under the direction of Kheti, treasurer to Mentuhotep II (2061-2010 BC)

      Username checks out.

      Seriously, I get it, education systems are often extremely flawed, but education has a long and storied history of being the root of all of humanity’s progress.

      We need to do better for our children, but that doesn’t include fundamentally incorrect extremes like “formal schooling is bad”.

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    she got engagement and ad-hominem is hardly a burn :/

    leaving that musk-fueled cesspool is the better move imo.

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    Eating food from birth till the day you die? Doesn’t sound like living to me, sounds like an addiction.

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      Just wait til you hear about water! Everybody who drinks it? Dead. 100% mortality rate, no cure, and once you start, you’re hooked!

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    Says the party that literally wanted to modify the grade school syllabus to teach that the 2020 US election was stolen.

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          The department head shit was also extremely frustrating. I wanted the position, had been flow out to a leadership conference by the district the summer before, presented a spreadsheet documenting some of my plans for improvement over five years (detailed, worked with some of the best minds in science education.)

          But the anti vaxxer applied too. His great plan was “we should focus on more reading.”

          I’m sure the fact that I was 🏳️‍🌈 had zero impact on the principals decision lol. (Anti vaxxer guy did limp wrist impressions of me too. But who the fuck cared.)

          Like it’s amazing. Oklahoma just actively does not want capable teachers.

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          There’s a reason Oklahoma is 49th for education.

          During COVID, the biology teacher at the high school I worked (and later, the fucking department head) was a creationist with a Bible college degree that would compliment students for forgoing masks and explicitly taught anti-vaxx shit.

          Climate change is fun too - I put on a PD once and a teacher was really fucking pissed that I was showing data on how Milanokovich cycles do not explain modern climate patterns… literally thought she was going to fight me.

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            Milanokovich Cycles

            That has to be the dumbest excuse for anti-climate change arguments I’ve heard in a while.

            Do people really think that every single climate scientist who has dedicated their lives to studying shit that affects the climate, is unaware of and didn’t account for, natural variations in solar energy the Earth receives, which I learned about in elementary school?