People say this all the time like it’s some edgy gotcha.
And while Public education in the United States did really come to full fruition during the industrial revolution, and does do a lot to prepare a person for the workforce, noting not all school are the same…
…I am fully greatful my little rural New England School did a good job teaching me critical thinking. I really loved learning as I grew up and had many fantastic teachers.
To note, over the last 25 years, education funding, for whatever reason, is funded…but poorly. My son is in middle school, I’ve noticed he doesn’t have music class. They have a band and chorus as extracurriculars, but no music theory/history class like I did. I was the last class group to take home economics, and there is no computer class either. Every kid has a Chromebook, but no one is watching a Sweeny Todd on stage, or picking a composer to write a report on. No kid is sewing a teddy bear or making pizza cookies, and they don’t have general computer instruction. My son is in special education, so it’s hard to gauge one to one, but I definitely feel like his quality of education is less than when I was in middle school 25 years ago, especially when we look at “specials”, for what its worth. And this disappoints me.
But education as I see, is not “just to get you ready for the workforce” though that is part of it. A lot of teachers really care, and try to help kids find joy in learning, even still today. Well rounded schooling is important for children to become individuals with the power of critical thought beyond the scope of preparing them to work in a factory.
School where I went, and were my son goes, definitely fit “you get out what you put in”.
I am fully greatful my little rural New England School did a good job teaching me critical thinking. I really loved learning as I grew up and had many fantastic teachers.
To note, over the last 25 years, education funding, for whatever reason, is funded…but poorly
they coulda spent a lil more time on spelling, grammar, punctuation, and composition tbqph. like cmon bro you had to override the spellcheck on greatful.
t(T)hey coulda(‘ve) spent a lil(ttle) more time on spelling, grammar, punctuation, and composition tbqph(quite is redundant). likec(C’)mon(,) bro(;) you had to override the spellcheck on (“)greatful.(”)
you think lil is spelled with 2 ts? idk bro i feel like wed say the ts if they was in the word. my favorite is rejecting quite while accepting acronymization
edit: also quite is superfluous, not redundant
edit2: wait what does breathless mean in this context? I’m not breathing between sentences? is that insulting? am i insulted now?
you assume a challenge where none exists. like, you fr think im being 💯 about spelling and grammar n shit? im not even using capitals? like, i also had to override spell check a lot? … lil wasnt enough of a clue? cmon take a breath homie
Cruel Fate, why do I have to be cursed with their loss, forever? WHY, GOD?! Truly, no man has known grief until he has known getting blocked by some guy in a throwaway comment chain.
I’ve turned off my spell check from my phone to practice. I hope to keep my mind sharp.
(Edit: greatful, grateful, is the bane of my existence since I was young, thanks for reminding me. Im not grate-ful like a flood grate in the road, I’m great-ful. The root word great- means good, happy. The root word grate- makes me think if a metal contraption in the road. This is why my brain does that. I disagree with the root word formation lmao)
I have ADHD, and probably a bit of dyslexia (yes, I still have talk to text on, and used it to spell that word), I’ve learned as I’ve helped my son with his learning disabilities.
I was able to mask and struggle through school undetected, my son not so much.
I got tired of computer programming telling me what word I should type next, autocorrecting words I didnt want it to, and a few months ago turned all that off.
This is a casual place, so I wrote casually and didn’t edit my paragraphs much for such. Sorry if anything was unclear to you. I’m also sorry you felt the need to punch down on another fellow human.
Read an old book from 1850-1900. The grammar in those books will give you a panic attack. Be easy
Not as long as the industrial complex is the most important thing to our society. You treat special cases but on average it’s a workforce. You know the Ontario government has an investment plan for higher education because society financially benefits from more intelligent people?
I dont see how the industrial complex is the most important thing to our society, here in the states.
I do see a cultural tendency to associate wealth with success. A notion that confuses me and I dont subscribe to, however is very prevalent here.
In the early 2000 the focus was college prep. College was marketed as the average persons line to success (wealth).
Today I think a lot of teachers are just trying to get through the day. The United States education, in my area, seemed to have peaked when I was in school. When the Bush administration passed the “no child left behind” act… I’ve since watched education go in the shitter. It should have been called “pass every student no matter what”. Also around 2010 they switched from teaching 5/6 year olds phonics and instead tried “sight words” for a time. A massive failure. I believe they have gone back to phonics now, I hope.
In the states, schools sign contracts with tech companies to supply chrombooks to each student, but like I mentioned, dont teach music composition anymore. Students of today, it’s been noted to me by professionals I work with, absolutely have less tolerance for difficult things than the students 20 years ago. But in my discussions, it’s not evident why. Even children with low/no/modersted screen time stuggle with task tolerance. So I don’t know.
I do know my state (2nd or 3rd state in the country for quality of k-12 education) now has public community college education available for free, or nearly nothing. Ive seen the flyers and buildings, I don’t know much about it, but I’m proud my state is offering alternatives to the large expensive universities. They are trying very hard to invest in the the everyday person here.
Just lay off “school is just a place you are trained to be a worker” alluding it is not important or meaningful outside of training machine cogs. It’s a juvenile thought made with little consideration to other invaluable educational experiences within childhood education. The purpose of school is to have an intelligent, healthy society capable of critical thought so that we may uphold democracy and society as a whole. Have we swayed from this in the last 10,15, 20 years? A good question. But I’ve heard the school/worker machines comment for longer than that.
People say this all the time like it’s some edgy gotcha.
And while Public education in the United States did really come to full fruition during the industrial revolution, and does do a lot to prepare a person for the workforce, noting not all school are the same…
…I am fully greatful my little rural New England School did a good job teaching me critical thinking. I really loved learning as I grew up and had many fantastic teachers.
To note, over the last 25 years, education funding, for whatever reason, is funded…but poorly. My son is in middle school, I’ve noticed he doesn’t have music class. They have a band and chorus as extracurriculars, but no music theory/history class like I did. I was the last class group to take home economics, and there is no computer class either. Every kid has a Chromebook, but no one is watching a Sweeny Todd on stage, or picking a composer to write a report on. No kid is sewing a teddy bear or making pizza cookies, and they don’t have general computer instruction. My son is in special education, so it’s hard to gauge one to one, but I definitely feel like his quality of education is less than when I was in middle school 25 years ago, especially when we look at “specials”, for what its worth. And this disappoints me.
But education as I see, is not “just to get you ready for the workforce” though that is part of it. A lot of teachers really care, and try to help kids find joy in learning, even still today. Well rounded schooling is important for children to become individuals with the power of critical thought beyond the scope of preparing them to work in a factory.
School where I went, and were my son goes, definitely fit “you get out what you put in”.
they coulda spent a lil more time on spelling, grammar, punctuation, and composition tbqph. like cmon bro you had to override the spellcheck on greatful.
you think lil is spelled with 2 ts? idk bro i feel like wed say the ts if they was in the word. my favorite is rejecting quite while accepting acronymization
edit: also quite is superfluous, not redundant
edit2: wait what does breathless mean in this context? I’m not breathing between sentences? is that insulting? am i insulted now?
It’s adorable how breathless troll’s get when I beet them at they’re own game.
Stay mad 😂
you assume a challenge where none exists. like, you fr think im being 💯 about spelling and grammar n shit? im not even using capitals? like, i also had to override spell check a lot? … lil wasnt enough of a clue? cmon take a breath homie
Thank you for having such a telling username. I hate feeling unsure about blocking someone who may say something noteworthy in the future.
No such doubt exists here.
Cruel Fate, why do I have to be cursed with their loss, forever? WHY, GOD?! Truly, no man has known grief until he has known getting blocked by some guy in a throwaway comment chain.
I’ve turned off my spell check from my phone to practice. I hope to keep my mind sharp.
(Edit: greatful, grateful, is the bane of my existence since I was young, thanks for reminding me. Im not grate-ful like a flood grate in the road, I’m great-ful. The root word great- means good, happy. The root word grate- makes me think if a metal contraption in the road. This is why my brain does that. I disagree with the root word formation lmao)
I have ADHD, and probably a bit of dyslexia (yes, I still have talk to text on, and used it to spell that word), I’ve learned as I’ve helped my son with his learning disabilities.
I was able to mask and struggle through school undetected, my son not so much.
I got tired of computer programming telling me what word I should type next, autocorrecting words I didnt want it to, and a few months ago turned all that off.
This is a casual place, so I wrote casually and didn’t edit my paragraphs much for such. Sorry if anything was unclear to you. I’m also sorry you felt the need to punch down on another fellow human.
Read an old book from 1850-1900. The grammar in those books will give you a panic attack. Be easy
you get out what you put in
Big facts yes, I hope you got something out of it too
Not as long as the industrial complex is the most important thing to our society. You treat special cases but on average it’s a workforce. You know the Ontario government has an investment plan for higher education because society financially benefits from more intelligent people?
Well, it’s not. We outsourced the bulk of our heavy industry to East Asia 30 years ago.
Now the most important thing to our society is sales and marketing.
I dont see how the industrial complex is the most important thing to our society, here in the states.
I do see a cultural tendency to associate wealth with success. A notion that confuses me and I dont subscribe to, however is very prevalent here.
In the early 2000 the focus was college prep. College was marketed as the average persons line to success (wealth).
Today I think a lot of teachers are just trying to get through the day. The United States education, in my area, seemed to have peaked when I was in school. When the Bush administration passed the “no child left behind” act… I’ve since watched education go in the shitter. It should have been called “pass every student no matter what”. Also around 2010 they switched from teaching 5/6 year olds phonics and instead tried “sight words” for a time. A massive failure. I believe they have gone back to phonics now, I hope.
In the states, schools sign contracts with tech companies to supply chrombooks to each student, but like I mentioned, dont teach music composition anymore. Students of today, it’s been noted to me by professionals I work with, absolutely have less tolerance for difficult things than the students 20 years ago. But in my discussions, it’s not evident why. Even children with low/no/modersted screen time stuggle with task tolerance. So I don’t know.
I do know my state (2nd or 3rd state in the country for quality of k-12 education) now has public community college education available for free, or nearly nothing. Ive seen the flyers and buildings, I don’t know much about it, but I’m proud my state is offering alternatives to the large expensive universities. They are trying very hard to invest in the the everyday person here.
Just lay off “school is just a place you are trained to be a worker” alluding it is not important or meaningful outside of training machine cogs. It’s a juvenile thought made with little consideration to other invaluable educational experiences within childhood education. The purpose of school is to have an intelligent, healthy society capable of critical thought so that we may uphold democracy and society as a whole. Have we swayed from this in the last 10,15, 20 years? A good question. But I’ve heard the school/worker machines comment for longer than that.