• FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
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    22 hours ago

    “An unprecedented degree of animus towards transgender people animates and permeates the ban: it is based on the shocking proposition that transgender people do not exist,” the lawyers wrote.

    Someone needs to hire new lawyers cause that’s not even being discussed.

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            14 hours ago

            Yes, this is. This is about making people with gender dysphoria ineligible for military service, the same way people with many other conditions are.

            It has nothing to do with pronouns. It has nothing to do with same sex attraction. It has nothing to do with whatever else you want to pretend it does.

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                  13 hours ago

                  You’re gonna ignore all the other anti “dei” stuff being done? Pretend like this is just off in the corner all alone?

                  You’re full of shit. We’re done. I won’t hit my head against a wall.

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                    13 hours ago

                    DEI has nothing to do with this. DEI is about putting people in roles/positions that they didn’t necessarily deserve (as simple a description as you can get for why people oppose it). ie promoting someone because they’re a minority over people who are better qualified.

                    This is about adding another exclusion to the list of conditions that exclude people from military service eligibility. DEI isn’t even remotely relevant here.

                    Good job with the name calling though. Really gets across how intelligent and well reasoned your arguments are.

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        19 hours ago

        This executive order by trump literally acknowledges people with gender dysphoria and excludes them from the military. It’s not saying “trans people don’t exist”. It’s saying they DO, and they’re excluded from military service.

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            19 hours ago

            It seems like maybe you don’t. Please explain to me how what I said is wrong? If their position is that trans people don’t exist, how can they ban them from the military?

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                18 hours ago

                Can you please answer in the context of what we’re actually talking about? This EO does not “claim trans people don’t exist” which was the lawyers statement. This EO is saying that trans people are excluded from the military - how can it do that while also saying trans people don’t exist? That makes no sense. They need to exist in order to exclude them.

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                  It’s not saying “gender dysphoria is not a diagnosis that exists anywhere” it’s saying “believing yourself to be transgender is a substantial enough mental illness and flaw in character so as to preclude military service.”

                  This claims that having gender dysphoria is some sort of deficiency, and not just a non-standard identifier. This invalidates the identity of trans people, and calls into question their legitimacy.

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                    It’s literally acknowledging their existence - the exact opposite of what some, including the lawyer, are saying.

                    Like it or not, gender dysphoria is a mental condition. Your brain is telling you that you’re “born in the wrong body”. That’s not saying its a bad thing, just that it is a thing - like anorexia where your brain tells you that you’re fat when you’re not.

                    The debate around which mental conditions make you not able to perform military service is definitely something that needs to be delved into more, but that doesn’t stop an administration from making a decision to start from.

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        They are a transphobe. Even tagged then as such the previous time they tried to pass off their hate as “just stuff everyone knows is true”.

        I wouldn’t bother.

        Edited to add: Yeah, see reply, they just keep going. “If being transphobic makes me a transphobe then words have lost meaning” is… Well, something.

        Tag accuracy confirmed!

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          14 hours ago

          “Males and females are different” = transphobe to you guys lol. Just like “Nazi”, being called a “transphobe” isn’t something anyone even blinks an eye about anymore because it’s lost all meaning.