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    They just want trans people to die, not to die for their country.

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    “An unprecedented degree of animus towards transgender people animates and permeates the ban: it is based on the shocking proposition that transgender people do not exist,” the lawyers wrote.

    Someone needs to hire new lawyers cause that’s not even being discussed.

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      What are you talking about? You really can’t see how this is just an expression of what the lawyer is describing? Transgender people aren’t allowed to exist. Texas literally has a law on the table right now to make it a felony, “gender fraud,” to not use your assigned at birth pronouns. Wake the fuck up dude.

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        This executive order by trump literally acknowledges people with gender dysphoria and excludes them from the military. It’s not saying “trans people don’t exist”. It’s saying they DO, and they’re excluded from military service.

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            It seems like maybe you don’t. Please explain to me how what I said is wrong? If their position is that trans people don’t exist, how can they ban them from the military?

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              The same way banning the use of pronouns other than those assigned to you constitutes erasure. It’s about restricting or removing rights until either it’s a crime to be a certain way and/or people are too scared to come out anymore

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                Can you please answer in the context of what we’re actually talking about? This EO does not “claim trans people don’t exist” which was the lawyers statement. This EO is saying that trans people are excluded from the military - how can it do that while also saying trans people don’t exist? That makes no sense. They need to exist in order to exclude them.

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                  I said what is happening. Legalese nonsense is not a substantive argument nor does it undo what they are attempting to do. This is erasure.

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    When there are fewer LGBT people in the military, then there will also be less resistance from within when the military is used to oppress that very same group. I suspect that might be a reason for the ban. Also I guess there’d be less chance for a coup, but I don’t know how likely that is to begin with.

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      The military is all about indoctrination which is the polite word for “brainwashing”. Our trans friends in the armed forces are just as unlikely to stop stomping on necks as anyone else.

      Nah, this is just general hate toward the Ts (expect the Ls, Bs, Gs, Qs, and +s to follow).