With widespread Kahanism, they did not learn everything from their past.
United States of Aipac will approve, does not matter reps or dems.
European sanctions also apparently never.
Watch as they spin this and sanction Jordan or Egypt.
And go where, jackass?
Presumably either Egypt or the West Bank. Well… Until Israel decides they want that too and start bombing the shit out of that.
This is fucking evil manifest.
Yeah, it’s Israel.
Israel is an evil country. Israel is the country with the most war criminals per capita. If the Israeli people do not do something significant in the coming months, they will be complicit in the atrocities committed by the IDF.
Pretty sure they are leaving already. But just in coffins like Israel wanted.
I couldn’t finish the article because of how horrific the descriptions of kids suffering were.
I’m not going to read the article because I’ve read enough already to be fucking sickened by it.
Leave where? The Mediterranean?
They need to be taught the same hard lesson Germany, Italy, and Japan had to be taught 80 years ago. Genocidal fascism has no place on Earth.
I was told many times that the extremists who hold this agenda in Israel are a small minority and do not represent Israel or have much power over its policy.
If they are the minority, why does Netanyahu keep getting reelected?
It’s what I’m asking myself.
Netanyahu isn’t seen as an extremist within Israeli politics. Zionism has always been fascist and always had the agenda of the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians
Probably the same kind of ignorance of other countries’ perspective that makes Americans think the political center is somewhere between the US Republicans and the US Democrats.
I know it’s framed that way deliberately to western audiences as a way to minimize Israels current actions as fringe instead of mainstream, but yeah, definitely taken that way from the audience. American exceptionalism still has a stronghold in the mentality of the people here unfortunately.
I hope one day the same will happen to Israel and Israelians and I hope no one will care anymore.
Zionism is the problem. While a small Minority in Israel, there are many anti-zionist Israelis who are playing a critical role in dismantling Zionism.
It’s a one-state reality of supremacy and apartheid. The only way out is with ending Zionism and implementing right of return, equal rights, and massive reparations to all Palestinians
Unfortunately, from the outside it looks very much like the anti-Zionists are taking the position of “once the Zionists have done all the Zionism, we’ll give them a very stern telling off.”
This may not be how it actually is, but as long as Yahoo and people of his mindset are in charge, it won’t look any better than that.
That’s certainly not what they are saying. Ilan Pappe and Avi Schlaim are great counter examples. I think what you’re talking about fits post-zionists much more accurately. And in terms of post-zionism I agree.
Adi Callai has also done phenomenal work about bringing an end to Zionism, he has a great analysis of Franz Fanon as well.
Or here’s a novel thought: how about we start hoping for bad shit to not happen? The cycle of revenge and “I deserve this land because X” is how we ended up in this situation in the first place.
That’s what I keep saying about adopting healing language/actions because it’s not different when we do it, for “reasons.” The Lemmy masses are almost entirely against it.
No, we ended up in this situation because colonizers came and stole Palestinian land. It’s an Israeli myth that Palestinians first stole the land from the Jews and expelled them.
The truth is, Palestinians are just descendents of ancient Israelis. They’re not invaders. They’re indigenous to the land.
The truth is, you’ve completely ignored my point. Genocide as a response to genocide solves nothing.
Sure, Israel should be abolished peacefully.
I’m just saying, this isn’t how we got here.
What fantasy land do you live in where the involuntary dismantling of a country is ever a peaceful process?
Decolonization can be done peacefully.
I don’t think that will happen, but it could!
I also support Palestinian resistance, and that’s very different from Israeli violence inflicted onto Palestinians. Indigenous resistance to colonization is always justified.
Decolonization can be done peacefully.
50 years ago you might have had a chance to make it happen, since most Israeli people would have been born elsewhere. Now you have multiple generations of people born and raised in Israel. They have nowhere else to go.
And you’ll have to forgive me for being skeptical about a Muslim majority Palestine being tolerant of religious differences if they regained control of the whole area.
Settler colonialism is how we ended up in this situation. There is no ‘both sides’ when one is engaging in supremacy and genocide while the other is resisting eradication and fighting for their human rights
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For the people who are downvoting. Equating the violence here is the same as equating the violence in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. It’s been over 76 years of violent apartheid, supremacy, and ethnic cleansing.
In the Shadow of the Holocaust by Masha Gessen, the situation in Gaza is compared to the Warsaw Ghettos. The comparison was also made by a Palestinian poet who was later killed by an Israeli airstrike. Adi Callai, an Israeli, has also written on the parallels in his article The Gaza Ghetto Uprising and expanded upon in his corresponding video
You’re getting down voted because you’ve missed the point. It doesn’t matter why the current situation is happening, calling for genocide as a response to genocide makes you just as guilty as the people you hate.
Kami is, which is why I downvoted them.
Palestinian resistance is not calling for genocide.
I feel like I’m talking to a bot. All of your responses are at best tangentially related to what I say.
You blamed the current situation on the ‘cycle of revenge,’ which grossly misrepresents the reality of Zionism and the reaction of Palestinian resistance.
And you keep ignoring the point that it doesn’t fucking matter. You can’t solve genocide with more genocide.
I’m not calling for anything, I’m just hoping they’ll get what they are giving. If you think it is genocide, then so be it.
Like a… Pogrom?
A big genocidal pogrom. The biggest pogrom.
Wow it really is easy to make it sound like something Trump would say isn’t it?
Well except he has the vocabulary of a 4th grader and pogrom isn’t likely in it.
Oh? Is Israel finally letting Palestinians have free travel so that they actually can leave or is “leave in great numbers” a euphemism for the ongoing genocide?
I would say genocide. It’s Israel. Come on now.
As would I, hence I did. But the quote was from an Israeli official.I think I might have read the comment I replied to wrong. It seems to me now they were choosing the second option of my original comment.
They can leave in bodybags…
There is a word in ancient Greek which has the precise meaning “to entirely destroy” by fire. Maybe we need to start calling this what it is: a holocaust of Gaza.
Israel is the modern day Nazi regime and we need to stop mincing words about it.
The worst one, but not the only one
No doubt.
Thats why our nazi president is making sure it’s illegal to say bad things about the Israeli government, like knows like
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There is no excuse for the systematic extermination of innocent civilians in response to the criminal actions of Hamas.
Imagine being Zionist in 2025
