(this is a sarcastic post meant to highlight the absurdity of some of the “greater good” rhetoric we’ve been hearing, especially around leaving vulnerable populations like disabled people behind in case of revolution, basically accelerationism)
(this is a sarcastic post meant to highlight the absurdity of some of the “greater good” rhetoric we’ve been hearing, especially around leaving vulnerable populations like disabled people behind in case of revolution, basically accelerationism)
You Lemmy progressives need to be honest with yourselves. If “not a fascist” wasn’t enough to make you vote for Harris there isn’t a candidate in the universe that would have passed your purity test. It’s almost like you actually wanted Trump to win.
Oh I voted for Harris (and am also not the person you replied to) but “Compromise on all your ideals” describes the trajectory of the Kamala candidacy quite well. And that’s best case. Worst case, as the atlantic suggested way back in 2020, she didn’t share those ideals to begin with.
And that sprint to the right that she made didn’t move the needle on R voters at all. She should have campaigned like she wanted Democrat votes, but she didn’t. She talked a lot about her Glock and got cozy with the war criminals of the prior generation, didn’t talk much about climate change, and even gave space on stage to Liz Cheney at the DNC instead of even giving a single minute to a pro-Palestine Democrat, to try getting some of the basket of deplorables to pick her. None of them did, and it didn’t make Democrats very happy either.
Maybe if the Democratic candidate had acted like she wanted Democrat votes, this map would have looked different in the end.
If the first week and a half had been indicative of the rest of the campaign we’d have a woman in the white house right now. Skipping a meeting with Bibi, picking walz, Republicans are weird, joy, the coconut shit. Cringe as fuck but people were excited and that’s all that matters in American politics, then she came out and gave a full throated right wing speech at the dnc and it all went down from there. Cosplay republicans can’t beat the real thing.
They picked her for her lack of principals and the fact she’d shift to wherever she was told, it was more important to have a candidate that they could control than a candidate who could win. And now the whole world suffers more than it needed to.
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Ah, professional politician eh? That’s some rarefied air there.
Keep going… What drives turnout? Citizen campaigning.
Maybe if leftists didn’t spend the year leading up to the election protesting the better candidate we would have seen a better outcome.
So Kamala had no duty to motivate the people she wanted to vote for her? That seems a bit backwards from how I’ve always understood elections.
I agree that “Not Trump” actually should be enough in today’s climate - but it wasn’t in 2016, so why trot out that playbook again? Seems shortsighted and stupid, almost as if corporate donations and Republican voters seemed more imporantant to the DNC than Democrat voters, who were just expected to be “in the bag.”
The proper assignment of blame is on Joe Biden for not getting out of the way to have a real primary.
People weren’t given a choice for their candidate. Excitement drives Democratic turnout, and they’ve been tamping down expectations for decades now. There’s nothing exciting about the campaign strategy of “we’re not Donald Trump.”
Blaming leftists for the failings of liberals is what keeps pushing the party establishment to the right.
I see the BlueMAGA crowd has moved from “you have to vote for Democrats” to “you can never criticize Democrats”
Moved? That’s been the policy since 2016.
Lemmy Democrats did their strategy, lost, and blame leftists. Talk about being in denial.
That strategy won the majority of elections since the 90s.
Trump lost by more in 2020 and repeated his strategy just to win. Too bad he didn’t follow the leftist strategy of complaining and not trying to win.
He complained a lot. He complained after winning. The difference is, Trump campaigned to win right wing losers… The problem is… so did Kamala.
This constant blaming the left for Democrats’ failure is the true psyop, and you seem to be foolish enough to play along…
He didnt just complain without trying to win. Like leftists are popular for doing.
Kamala campaigned to everyone. Trying to reach as many voters as possible because that is a prerequisite for winning elections and a reason leftists don’t win elections.
Russia needed Trump to win for their invasion. It is public knowledge that their strategy is to create infighting in the US so we are more divided and don’t get anything done. This is done by trying to push the right further right and the left further left.
We already know the GOP campaigns with the goal of preventing Dems from winning.
Kamala campaigned on making the wealthy pay their fair share so the billionaire class didn’t want her to win.
These are the obvious sources of “psyops” that are rampant on the internet right now.
This doesn’t even make sense.
I voted for Jill Stein, who’s anti-genocide, among other things. The left needs to support more anti-genocide candidates.
if they want this title then maybe they shouldn’t have been arming and defending the extermination campaign in Palestine
But every single mainstream Democrat is just as fascist outside of the US as the Republicans. They proved that when they didn’t do anything about a genocide. They are also increasingly fascistic in the US as they demonstrated by being better at deportations than the Republicans. (Also, regularly breaking with Democrat voters to side with MAGA in Congress/Senate).
The Democrats are the same team as the Republicans, they just use different language.
The Democrats policy on Palestine seems pretty fascist to me.
I bet you most leftists that use alternative media like lemmy DID vote for Harris. You’re screaming at all the lemmings still over at Reddit…
Leftists see democrats as fascists of a different shade. And I mean they aren’t good, they do a lot of the same shit as Republicans but hey look we don’t hate black people and fly rainbow flags while we slowly strip your rights but the right is literally running around seig heiling while wiping their asses with the bill of rights so.
Personally, the whole government needs to go. But that’s a pipe dream
Link because I don’t think I can upload images on here: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjBAU1OWAAAJB8W?format=jpg&name=medium
I’m convinced they are bad actors. With all the damage Trump is doing they still complain about the alternative like they are campaigning for the GOP.
All or nothing isn’t as easy as you think for people. Lefties have a lot of destructive ideas that look superficially good, but cause mass division that doesnt need to be.
Seriously lemmy can be wild in this regard. I got a death threat for implying democrats were better than Republicans.
I’m not in love with many of their policies, they don’t go nearly far enough, but like damn they’re obviously the better choice
You think Democrats didn’t go far enough on exterminateing Palestinians?
The problem is that the democrats have been name calling for so long, that calling anyone fascist holds no weight. No one cares, they simply don’t believe the democrats.
And so you need a bigger platform than “I’m not a republican”.
The platform was “I’m really a Republican” though, not “I’m not a Republican.”
And given the choice of voting for a Republican or a cosplay Republican they’re gonna vote for the real thing.