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  • P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    They know why they are in that department and job. They want to take an active part in dismantling their own government.

    Fuck these people.

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      Honestly, I don’t think they really understand why they’re there.

      They’re in their twenties. Some of them are college students. I think at least one is a literal teenager.

      Musk chose these children because they don’t have the life experience to understand the consequences of their actions.

      Cut billions of dollars in aid to the poorest people in the world? Without having any authority to do it? An average person would stop and think “how many people are going to die from this?” Or, more selfishly, “what consequences will I face in the future if I do something so fundamentally evil?” Or, more practically, “is what I’m doing legal, and will Trump and Musk throw me under the bus and claim I acted without orders if I get criminally charged for this?”

      These kids aren’t thinking about long-term consequences. They’re thinking “the richest man in the world chose me to transform America and I have to live up to his expectations”.

      Blind loyalty. That’s it.

      It’s why armies recruit men young.

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        Cut billions of dollars in aid to the poorest people in the world? Without having any authority to do it? An average person would stop and think “how many people are going to die from this?” Or, more selfishly, “what consequences will I face in the future if I do something so fundamentally evil?” Or, more practically, “is what I’m doing legal, and will Trump and Musk throw me under the bus and claim I acted without orders if I get criminally charged for this?”

        These kids aren’t thinking about long-term consequences. They’re thinking “the richest man in the world chose me to transform America and I have to live up to his expectations”.

        You’ve almost got it right. An average person would stop and think about shit like that. A psychopath would not.

        They may be young adults, but they are still adults. Adults still go to prison for doing stupid shit that gets people killed. All of these adults are getting people killed. Literally.

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        You’re not wrong that they might not realize the consequences. But the consequences are still real. I would much prefer that the consequences of their actions are things like cyber bullying and phishing instead of things like WW3 and yet another holocaust

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          Exactly. That’s why making it harder for them to dismantle the government is actively helpful to multiple nations, and being able to spoof emails from others on that list is probably the best way to get around any filters. Not that I’d ever advocate for doxxing. Nope. Definitely noone should ever do that or anything else illegal ever.

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        Sounds like a similar excuse the concentration camp guards used after WWII

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        these children

        I’m sorry but no. When I was younger than that I was following the news. I remember listening to Dubya and Obama’s state of the union speeches and such. I remember being horrified at each war being declared. I remember how civil rights were given or taken away depending on the weather. And before that I was having debates with my teammates about religion and politics in and out of school.

        All this to say, besides that I was quite insufferable and still may be, is that I was refining my values and my morals along the way. I knew what was right from wrong, I knew where the boundaries lay, and I knew that certain actions by authorities were bad. And I was damn young. I don’t think I’m smarter than the average person, but I know damn well what I was thinking back then.

        Don’t underestimate young people. These people know very well what they’re doing.

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        I learned about Nazis and “just following orders” before 6th grade. 20 year olds are not infants.

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        They are literally killing children and babies same as if they were standing there stepping on their little faces and leaving bloody footprints in their wake. No sympathy for child killers.

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          Pre edit: Oh, lol. I just typed this out and realized you were the same guy from elsewhere in the comments. Feel free to completely disagree with me, but I’m leaving this here for others that want to read and think.

          There are a lot of great answers to the question, how about this one.

          When the USA spent 6.5 billion anually (started with George Bush) it prevented 20 million people from being able to spread HIV each year. This includes to children that would be born with HIV. Now you might not have the empathy to consider investing that for foreign adults and children at the cost of double what just Elon Musk got last year in government contracts, but let’s change from HIV to the next Covid. What would happen to the rate of infection globally if 20 million more people from some of the poorest countries became vectors of a highly contagious deisease? That sounds like a problem for the USA to me.