• Skyline969@lemmy.ca
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    27 days ago

    I mean, say what you will about cars but the sidewalk is a dedicated lane for pedestrians. Walk on the street, fuck around and find out.

    • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      27 days ago

      Plus if you’re walking in the road walk against the flow of cars not with. That way if a drunk driver (or just general asshole) comes swerving down the road you can see it and react.

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    25 days ago

    Something Americans don’t know about is that streets were shared spaces between pedestrians, cars, bikes, everything. Then cars got a bigger role and pushed everyone else to sidewalks. Then bars and restaurants also wanted part of that space for outdoor serving. Now pedestrians, bikes, bars/restaurants, bus stops, e-scooters and parking spaces, advertising signs, and trees share the side walk, which in turn has become much more narrow because of car lanes…

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    26 days ago

    This lack of self awareness always astounds me. You are in a car, it transports you way faster than your own two legs, it protects you from elements with tons of steel and glass. The same steel that has tons of potential energy. Carless pedestrians are your inconvenience?

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    26 days ago

    But there is a sidewalk. I’m also wondering why these people are walking on the street

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    27 days ago

    Posts like this are part of the reason why the rest of us don’t take you people seriously.

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      25 days ago

      Closely related to, “I abuse animals because a vegan was mean to me once.”

  • Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    27 days ago

    We don’t have sidewalks in my community. Kids play in the streets and people are out walking on them all the time. Pushing strollers, walking their dogs, etc. The real difference is everyone is respectful. Cars drive slow and slow down more to go by giving extra space. Folks on the road move over and let the car go by. Kids collect up and move out of the way. A lot of the folks walking their dogs will step into the grass and wait. Everyone waves at each other. It’s like having a nice little community of friends that I never have to actually talk to. After living here for almost two years I strongly believe that I could stop and ask for help from any of them and I’d do the same. Kind of crazy reflecting on being that I’ve only ever talked to a few people, one of which only because she does crossing guard duties for the school crosswalk I take my son to in the golf cart.

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    27 days ago

    People from Bakersfield walk on the street, all over. Once you get used to it though it’s really not that difficult to live with. I imagine if people still used roads for walking like before cars, we could figure it out.

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        21 days ago

        Hay man, one of the lowest costs of living and average income ratios in the county. Also people get all ‘‘oh no’’ about crime rates, but it’s really not significant for people who go to bed at 9pm to 10pm and aren’t actively entrepreneurs of the night in any capacity. A lot of crime is criminal on criminal.

  • ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    I get this sentiment but cars will kill you.

    I don’t care about whatever argument you have about the existence of cars, stay out of their way.

    You might have the right of way, you might have the law on your side, you might fully well be in the right but.

    The car wins. You either die or end up with permanent lifelong injuries.

    Keep yourself safe above all. Bitch all you want but don’t deliberately put yourself at risk to “prove a point” you’ll just die or get fucked up for no reason other than pride.

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    27 days ago

    Walking on them is literally the entire purpose of sidewalks. I mean its right there in the name. This picture is exactly why - so they’re safe from cars and don’t obstruct drivers. Your opinion of cars is completely immaterial when determining who is being reasonable in this context.

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      27 days ago

      I don’t disagree with you on a rational level, but on a human level, it just sometimes feels nice to walk a different route, to not be forced to walk in exactly a straight line, especially with a ridiculously narrow sidewalk like that.

      And that’s then where the opinion of cars comes in. I’m not supposed to do what I feel like, because some guy with a car decides to head on through. If I think cars are vital to humanity, I’ll gladly do the rational thing. If I think cars are killing humanity, then sincerely fuck that noise.

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        27 days ago

        Holy Entitlement.

        “Yeah, there’s this whole path for pedestrians, and that whole path for cars, but sometimes I just want to be on the car one for no reason, so cars should be inconvenienced for that.”

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          27 days ago

          TBH I think that the demeanor of „why can’t I have 80% public city land for me“ sounds way more like entitlement for me. That is for me the reason why I found the original post so interesting.

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          27 days ago

          Are you really trying to sound like the sidewalk and the street are equal? The car has enough space for 4 of it to be side by side. The pedestrian has enough space for 2 of them to be side by side, touching. You sound entitled to me.

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            27 days ago

            So maybe we need bigger sidewalks. Fair enough, that’s a reasonable discussion. Taking over the entire road is not.

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              27 days ago

              Man the fucking moment a pedestrian steps onto the street they live on it’s “taking over the entire road” but roadside parking on both sides is normal. Fuck off.

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                26 days ago

                From a safety perspective, pedestrians in a road is already a huge issue.

                Like, the area should be changed. I totally agree with the idea of vastly increasing DESIGNATED pedestrian space.

                But for this driver on this day, they are using the infrastructure as designated. The street pedestrians are not, and are putting themselves at risk in the current system. A driver not wanting a high risk pass with a pedestrian, while a sidewalk exists in the current system is not entitled.

                It’s the same as if someone was uphill hiking on a designated downhill mountain bike ONLY trail. It isn’t wrong for the cyclist in that equation to be mad if they come across a hiker on a non shared trail.

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                  26 days ago

                  I’m excited for the day I’m coming home from work at night, coming over a hill I can’t see over, and then BOOM a human is in the middle of the road and I run someone over, because they “deserve to use the road as a pedestrian”

                  Cool. I’ll tell that to my therapist for the rest of my life while I try and cope with the fact that I’ve ended a life.

                  It’s one thing for someone to walk down the street and put themselves at risk.

                  It’s an entirely different deal to force an unsuspecting person into a dangerous situation. That’s fucking selfish.

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          27 days ago

          Do you have any idea how often pedestrians are inconvenienced by cars? We have to beg to cross streets and only where it is designated, busniesses are farther away and hidden behind vast parking lots, we are subject to their exhaust noise and fumes just about everywhere, and in many places we neglect nearly every form of travel that isnt a car.

          It isn’t like the car can’t still get down the road, they just have to do it at a safe speed and be aware of the pedestrians. This is a neighbourhood not a highway.