None and all of them. The video has been posted before but the essence is that the overwhelming part of Marvel’s films deals with the folloing scenary:
Bad guy tries to change something, often for legitimate reasons. God guys stop bad guy and everything stays the same. Even when people try to change something in a good way there is always something that goes horribly wrong.
The hypothesis falls apart when the author ties the real world problems of poverty, injustice and ecological disasters to the superheroes negligence.
The premises of the movies are that they are grounded in the real world. As such if superheroes transformed the world it would no longer be a recognizable setting for movie audiences.
2 hours of showing Iron Man digging wells in Africa isn’t entertaining.
The ability of an individual, even if superpowered, to change society is extremely limited. We have the example of Bill Gates having spent decades and tens of billions just to irradicate a single disease. What is Captain America going to do to control health care costs? Beat cancer cells in a petri dish?
2 hours of showing Iron Man digging wells in Africa isn’t entertaining.
It’s basically like that recurring criticism of Batman “Why doesn’t he just use his money to make the world a better place instead of putting on a costume and beating up poor people.”
The answer, of course, being that he does both, but the former doesn’t really make for fun storyline by itself, so it’s always a side-plot or passing reference instead of being the main story beat.
Nah, everyone making the reference has never consumed any media involving the character, and say as much repeatedly.
But they still make the criticism, because their favorite content creator made a longwinded video about it that was full of supposition and assumption (or flat out making shit up for the views).
Because if someone makes a 20 minute youtube video about it, it must be true.
The bad guy in black panther had a point, but was also a fascist trying to start a race war. And in the end, the hero acknowledges the issues that the villain had raised and does make changes to address them.
“We should intervene in misbehaving countries” vs. “we must respect other countries sovereignty” is never such an easy decision as the cartoon puts it.
In the end of Black Panther, Wakanda becomes an imperialistic power.
Imperialism is about resource and labor extraction, unless they’re using those outreach centers to destroy local markets so the people have to work on the plantations for pennies to scrape by, so Wakanda can buy bananas for cheap, I don’t see how it’s imperialism.
Or is Wakanda gonna go back to Plan A and use those outreach centers to influence elections/organize a coup and put in a comprador government?
It was never clear whether he wanted a race war or how he planned to carry one out, he simply wanted to arm oppressed minorities all over the world.
But in any case, making the Bad Guy™ murder kittens doesn’t change whether he’s right.
See The Dark Knight Rises, where the Bad Guy™ neutralizes the police, and the people immediately band together to lynch the bankers and landlords (this is portrayed as a bad thing). Naturally, the Bad Guy™ then decides to nuke the city, for reasons.
All I ever said was that I’ve begun judging people that enjoy these movies, and stated that I believe the movies are trash. These are all subjective statements, and just because they don’t agree with your opinions, doesn’t make them inherently wrong.
Why? I’m not anti-cartoon by any means. I just primarily think that most Marvel and DC movies are low effort, consumer brain rot.
I will say that DC has a slightly better track record, though. And when I say Marvel, I mostly mean the MCU. There were some decent Marvel films outside of the MCU. I’ll fuck with some X-Men, Blade, etc.
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Can you name one superhero movie that follows the plot of the OP comic?
The closest I can think of is Thanos killing half the people in the universe and the heroes trying to stop him. You’re on Thanos’s side?
None and all of them. The video has been posted before but the essence is that the overwhelming part of Marvel’s films deals with the folloing scenary:
Bad guy tries to change something, often for legitimate reasons. God guys stop bad guy and everything stays the same. Even when people try to change something in a good way there is always something that goes horribly wrong.
The hypothesis falls apart when the author ties the real world problems of poverty, injustice and ecological disasters to the superheroes negligence.
The premises of the movies are that they are grounded in the real world. As such if superheroes transformed the world it would no longer be a recognizable setting for movie audiences.
2 hours of showing Iron Man digging wells in Africa isn’t entertaining.
The ability of an individual, even if superpowered, to change society is extremely limited. We have the example of Bill Gates having spent decades and tens of billions just to irradicate a single disease. What is Captain America going to do to control health care costs? Beat cancer cells in a petri dish?
It’s basically like that recurring criticism of Batman “Why doesn’t he just use his money to make the world a better place instead of putting on a costume and beating up poor people.”
The answer, of course, being that he does both, but the former doesn’t really make for fun storyline by itself, so it’s always a side-plot or passing reference instead of being the main story beat.
And then everyone making the criticism ignores that passing reference.
Nah, everyone making the reference has never consumed any media involving the character, and say as much repeatedly.
But they still make the criticism, because their favorite content creator made a longwinded video about it that was full of supposition and assumption (or flat out making shit up for the views).
Because if someone makes a 20 minute youtube video about it, it must be true.
It’s a bit stretched, but… Watchmen perhaps? Kind of? Nothing closer comes to mind.
Oh watchmen for sure but it’s also about how bullshit the status quo is and how a crazy man can still fuck up the smartest plans by keeping a diary.
Black Panther
The bad guy in black panther had a point, but was also a fascist trying to start a race war. And in the end, the hero acknowledges the issues that the villain had raised and does make changes to address them.
“We should intervene in misbehaving countries” vs. “we must respect other countries sovereignty” is never such an easy decision as the cartoon puts it.
In the end of Black Panther, Wakanda becomes an imperialistic power.
… because they build outreach centers?
Have you seen things like that built around in your country?
Imperialism is about resource and labor extraction, unless they’re using those outreach centers to destroy local markets so the people have to work on the plantations for pennies to scrape by, so Wakanda can buy bananas for cheap, I don’t see how it’s imperialism.
Or is Wakanda gonna go back to Plan A and use those outreach centers to influence elections/organize a coup and put in a comprador government?
It was never clear whether he wanted a race war or how he planned to carry one out, he simply wanted to arm oppressed minorities all over the world.
But in any case, making the Bad Guy™ murder kittens doesn’t change whether he’s right.
See The Dark Knight Rises, where the Bad Guy™ neutralizes the police, and the people immediately band together to lynch the bankers and landlords (this is portrayed as a bad thing). Naturally, the Bad Guy™ then decides to nuke the city, for reasons.
I don’t watch them, because I don’t enjoy Disney spoonfeeding me low effort, regurgitated swill on the quarterly.
So you… object to the idea of what you think the movies are like, to the point that you have no idea what they’re like?
… And that sounds reasonable to you?
So you’d continue to watch snuff porn to be sure you’re well informed on the subject?
The issue isn’t that you’re not well informed.
The issue is that, when confronted with being wrong about something you’re uninformed about, you double down and act like an ass.
All I ever said was that I’ve begun judging people that enjoy these movies, and stated that I believe the movies are trash. These are all subjective statements, and just because they don’t agree with your opinions, doesn’t make them inherently wrong.
Get a grip on yourself.
You found the quote function. Thank you for consolidating my comment. Please note the use of words such as “believe” and “opinions.”
No one likes you.
You are going to lose your mind in rage when you discover people enjoy Bugs Bunny cartoons.
Why? I’m not anti-cartoon by any means. I just primarily think that most Marvel and DC movies are low effort, consumer brain rot.
I will say that DC has a slightly better track record, though. And when I say Marvel, I mostly mean the MCU. There were some decent Marvel films outside of the MCU. I’ll fuck with some X-Men, Blade, etc.
Why do you hold Marvel to a higher standard than Bugs Bunny?
Oh wow! You’re so much better than all of us!
You prefer doling your own out on internet forums?