• 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      49
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      The victim here said she wanted to go to the West Bank to “bear witness,” which is coded language for “be martyred,” which is coded language for “wilfully disregard your own safety and get yourself killed in a warzone.” That’s why she arrived in town, went straight to the front, and started some shit.

      That’s called martyrdom and Palestinian nationalists and pan-Islamists encourage and reward it. Get an air raid warning? Go stand on the roof, if you’re a true victim of the infidels. Soldiers working nearby? Throw rocks at them until they start shooting, if you’re a true patriot.

      That’s the greatest ambition the leadership in Palestine celebrates; the greatest blow they can deal to their oppressor is to put a body on them, get some sympathetic international headlines. And, obviously, for that reason, Hamas and their ideological allies throughout the region love nothing more than for Israel to kill a foreign national from somewhere with clout, but they’d settle for shooting one themselves and blaming it on Israel.

      • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        20
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        “Bear witness” is codified language for make your voice heard, but I can see how you don’t understand that applies to people who you don’t assign basic human agency to. What a monstrous comment.

          • zbyte64@awful.systems
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            11
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            2 months ago

            In most places it means being a journalist. And Israel did a speed run for the record of journalists killed in war.

            • acargitz@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              5
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              2 months ago

              JustZ is a kahanist troll and you’re not going to get any reasonable answer from them. Here they’ve made up out of whole cloth an entire theory based on a bad faith interpretation of a common phrase to find a way to blame the victim.

              • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                edit-2
                2 months ago

                That’s what the phrase means in Palestinian culture. It’s a verb phrase that means “to become a statistic in the name of the glory of Islam.” Stop trying to romance it up into some epic struggle for human rights. Gaza doesn’t give Gaza human rights. These dead innocents are victims of generations of brainwashing and hopelessness. Despite that, 98% of the Gaza has managed to dodge all the famine campaigns and indiscriminate carpet bombing. I have hope that after Hamas is gone, enough Palestinians may embrace modern human rights like representative government and due process instead of just having an actually far right religious dictatorship and rule by assassination, instead of living in the eighth century but with drones and rocket launchers.

                I’m not religious at all. Funny you think I’m a follower of some religious nutjob that I’ve never heard of. Can I assume that there is some other, equally nutty religious psychopath, for whom you’d throw your life away, or that you just think that’s rational behavior? I don’t know. Maybe just stick with “everything that makes me too sad is Zionism.”

          • LordGimp@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            2 months ago

            I saw your mother in Palestine blowing Arab dick from river to sea.

      • Maggoty@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        2 months ago

        Wow you went from victim blaming to, if Israel did it it wasn’t really their fault, to Israel is the victim of this unarmed civilian all in one post.

        Great job.

        • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          edit-2
          2 months ago

          Yes, that kind of consistency in reasoning is because that’s how it actually works there. In truth, and you must know this deep inside, there’s even less evidence for these one liner Al Jazeera headlines about who killed this girl and why, but you have your pitchfork out already. Now you’re showing down a steady diet of Qatari state media and non profit fundraising emails.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        2 months ago

        I have to assume this was written by an Antisemitic troll to deliberately make Israelis look bad, because the alternative is you thinking this was going to convince somebody.

        And holy shit, that’s some martyrdom behavior.

      • rsuri@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        Then why is Israel helping them? It is, after all, quite true that Israel has refused to stop settlement activity in the West Bank. Seems like a great way to cause protests, and then responding with a shoot first, ask questions later mentality will lead to a lot of martyrs. Are you accusing the Israeli government of being in league with Hamas?