• Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      2 months ago

      More specifically, Chinese state interests influencing Americans. US elected officials are AOK with US, plutocrat and commercial interests influencing Americans.

      It’s not about protecting the public, it’s about who gets to engage in malicious action against the public.

    • Jesus@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Correct. This was the big reason. Data is only important for micro targeting your propaganda.

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        2 months ago

        And also for scams or other fraud campaigns.

        For me its hard to believe massive widespread “pig butchering” scams are being orchestrated by some random Chinese thugs with no affiliation.

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      Also scams. They know you, your name, your contacts, dob, where you work, where you spend leisure time, your face, your house layout, and from your message details probably your darkest secrets and ssn.

      Chinese online and over the phone scams have been surging massively in the past few years.

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      There can be more than one concern at once, propaganda is certainly a problem but there is a greater one on what kind of AIs china is training.

      But of course lemmy only things AI is dangerous because some fucking furry deviantartist didn’t get paid for their cock-and-ball-torture scribbles were one of billions of images scraped.

      When the reality is that services like tiktok, youtube, and any media aggregator can use AI to make deep inferences about people’s lives and build up a near complete profile of your personality, income, political leanings, mental illnesses, family relations, and physical location JUST from your watch history.

      Most of you are sneering right now because you really have no clue how bad it is going to get.

      15 years ago, Walgreens used a primitive AI to determine women who were pregnant from their purchasing patterns, and would send out coupon kits for baby things and a congratulations letter. It was so accurate it knew often before the women themselves.

      So anyway, some 16 year old kid gets a prenatal package based on AI, outing their pregnancy to her parents. Things didn’t go well for anyone and Walgreens dropped the program.

      THIS WAS FROM 15 YEAR OLD AI TECHNOLOGY!

      Imagine what modern models can glean from you. Even after reading this most of you will be clueless and strangely arrogant in your ignorant positions about how none if this is really a big deal

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        It’s from 15 years ago because it’s super easy to track shopping for something like a pregnancy.

        There’s zero “AI” needed, even if such a thing existed.

        • Angry_Autist (he/him)@lemmy.world
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          I don’t think you understand at all, not even a bit.

          It wasn’t that the women were shopping for pregnancy items, its that they were shopping for other normal items just in the pattern that pregnant women tend to shop for early in the pregnancy.

          Like I said, a ton of women getting the notice WERE NOT AWARE THEY WERE EVEN PREGNANT YET!

          But you deliberately misunderstand to shift the focus away from the ACTUAL problem.