• underwire212@lemm.ee
    501·
    3 个月前

    In their defense, they only stated that they appreciated it…not that they’d listen.

      • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
        81·
        3 个月前

        I love that bot because I can disagree with their assessment easily in a comment to it. The NYT is medium to low and they list it as high, not sure how that came up with high for them.

        From my look at media publications:

        🔺💲 New York Times

        ◾ Owned by The New York Times Company

        It’s a publicly traded company with most of it being privately held, that owns a multitude of media types:

        Since September 25, 1997, the company has been listed on the New York Stock Exchange under the symbol NYT. From April 27, 1967, until January 13, 1969, the company’s Class A common stock traded over the counter. From January 14, 1969, until September 24, 1997, the shares were traded on the American Stock Exchange. There are 2 categories of stock, Class A (publicly traded) and Class B (held privately—largely (over 90% through The 1997 Trust) by the descendants of Adolph Ochs, who purchased The New York Times newspaper in 1896.

        ◾ CEO and publisher is A.G. Slzberger

        A.G. Slzberger

        Arthur Gregg “Dash” Sulzberger (born August 5, 1980) is an American journalist serving as the chairman of The New York Times Company and publisher of its flagship newspaper, The New York Times.

        Sulzberger is a fourth-generation descendant of Adolph Ochs, who bought the New York Times in 1896. The Times has been managed and published by Adolph Ochs’s family since that date.

        Sulzberger attended Ethical Culture Fieldston School and Brown University, graduating in 2003 with a major in political science. At Brown, Sulzberger worked briefly for The Brown Daily Herald as a contributing writer.

        ◾ Board of directors

        As of February 2024:

        • A. G. Sulzberger, chairman of The New York Times Company and publisher of The New York Times
        • Amanpal S. Bhutani, CEO of GoDaddy
        • Manuel Bronstein, CPO of Roblox
        • Beth Brooke, former global vice chair of public policy for Ernst & Young
        • Rachel Glaser, CFO of Etsy
        • Arthur Golden, best-selling author of Memoirs of a Geisha
        • Hays N. Golden, managing director of the University of Chicago Crime Lab and Education Lab
        • Meredith Kopit Levien, president and CEO of The New York Times Company
        • Brian P. McAndrews, former president, CEO, and chairman of Pandora Media
        • David Perpich, publisher of The Athletic and Wirecutter
        • John W. Rogers Jr., founder and chairman of Ariel Investments
        • Anuradha B. Subramanian, CFO of Bumble
        • Rebecca Van Dyck, former COO for Reality Labs at Meta Platforms

        Source

        This is their official page for the board of directors: https://www.nytco.com/board-of-directors/

    • goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
      315·
      3 个月前

      World admins rolling out a mbfc not for news and politics comms. They ask for feedback then get angry at the comments about how bad it looks and people again raising points for why mbfc sucks

      • Rooki@lemmy.world
        1725·
        3 个月前

        That was sadly the point why we didnt recognized that as feedback, rather as just being childish because some site said some bad things about their favorite news page.

        At least we got some real feedback that were constructive. We will implement those and deploy it.

          • Rooki@lemmy.world
            1025·
            3 个月前

            “MBFC BAD DESTROY IT” isnt valid. Its just personal opinion. We responded to the real feedback accordingly and will implement them soon.

            • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
              144·
              3 个月前

              Ah yes, I’m sure that was exactly how every piece of feedback against mbfc was.

              • Rooki@lemmy.world
                521·
                3 个月前

                No of course not, some were constructive and gave an alternative site or adjusted format how they expect it to look.

            • Krauerking@lemy.lol
              8·
              3 个月前

              I know you really don’t want to be shipped off to the work camps but that’s not really feedback is it?

              Now where do you want us to paint the bus a different color?

              Yes. Yes. I’m being facetious but… Like only accepting nice things that maybe fix appearance as feedback? Pshh.

        • CaliforniaKove@lemmy.caOP
          2210·
          3 个月前

          Please be honest with yourself. Feedback that isn’t complimentary of your closed-source bot has consistently been disregarded, even when it was constructive

          • Rooki@lemmy.world
            923·
            3 个月前

            No, there was some good. Feedback, those “I HATE MBFC DESTROY IT” Feedback was not constructive.

            • CaliforniaKove@lemmy.caOP
              229·
              3 个月前

              Your definition of feedback, as stated in one of your latest posts —“No improvement idea? No… that’s NOT feedback, that’s just crying around”(https://lemmy.ca/post/25936280/10720168)— is clearly out of touch with reality and reflects a biased and distorted view. Feedback includes all types of input, not just suggestions for improvement.

              • Rooki@lemmy.world
                521·
                3 个月前

                I just reflect how it feels to get such bad feedback without any real feedback in it.

                Feedback includes many types of input but not: Disliking it because of personal opinion, because service x rated your favorite news page badly.

                My feedback to that emotional feedback was just my emotion back to it.

                If we wanted everyones opinion on MBFC yes then we would loved this response from you. But feedback is not just MBFC BAD!!!

                What if theoretically give you feedback on your math test: “0 Points Because ITS BAD!!!” Then you would think why was it bad? The formula ? The results? The readability? Or were my books that i read bad?

                • Zoot@reddthat.com
                  161·
                  3 个月前

                  Normally when faced with simply “its bad!!!” You reflect. If i got a 0 on my math score with no explanation id imagine I did so insanely bad, that I need to rethink how I did it entirely.

                  Maybe stop removing comments and see about finding better sources, that also happen to reflect what your users want.

    • CaliforniaKove@lemmy.caOP
      189·
      3 个月前

      The LW mods are relying on a website to verify news, but it barely works outside of U.S. coverage, making it useless for global news (it’s like they think the U.S. is the whole world). They ask for feedback, but let’s be real—they’re too stubborn to accept any criticism

  • NovaPrime@lemmy.ml
    144·
    3 个月前

    Lovely - mods are removing all comments that are pointing out that /u/CaliforniaKove has been spamming multiple instances with the same agenda for days now. I’m guessing pointing out spam and voicing disagreement is not allowed? Better yet, they’re citing community Rule 2, which has to do with reposts and in no way applies to the removed comments. Unless they mean to cite Rule 2 of lemmy.ml, which is also absurd imo considering the shit that regularly gets posted on the instance (of which I’m a member). Normally I don’t removed about getting comments removed, but not allowing people to express frustration with actual spammers, and removing their comments citing an anti-spam rule, is fucked up and smells of agenda pushing vs. actual moderation.

  • Deestan@lemmy.world
    139·
    3 个月前

    Seeing the… type… of people who can’t handle fact checking, I am relieved it is in place.

    • marcos@lemmy.world
      85·
      3 个月前

      I… Agree with the OP that the site’s rating isn’t good.

      At the same time, the reports are very informative and seem to be well researched. I ended-up liking the site.

    • Majestic@lemmy.ml
      10·
      3 个月前

      That seems like a real problem given they are a people being actively subjected to genocide which is being censored and distorted by western media, who have their land stolen, their existence denied, and been subjected to apartheid sponsored by the most powerful nation in the world (the US no less) in flagrant violation of international law for over half a century. Abuses and genocide carried out by a regime so powerful, so important to US interests that there are multiple states in the US where you can lose your job or your business contract for simply voicing support for boycotting and divesting from the apartheid regime that is an illegal colonization and occupation of stolen land by radical far-right reactionary ethno-fascists operating under the cloak of religion. Most major western media are some degree of complicit in giving one-sided pro-apartheid state slants, omitting key details, and using dishonest framing to attempt to deceive the public and manufacture apathy and complicity.

      • Carrolade@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        3 个月前

        I actually agree with most of that, but the couple I’m troubled by are rather important.

        The main one being these slants and key details you say are omitted. Before I go into it, though, I assume you’re talking about the historical context of the conflict?

  • CaliforniaKove@lemmy.caOP
    1542·
    3 个月前

    Media Bias/Fact Check Media Bias Fact Check Credibility: [Glorious and Infalible meme] (Click to view Full Report, loyalty expected)

    In the land of absolute truth, Media Bias Fact Check reigns supreme, meticulously rating the bias and credibility of news sources with an iron fist. Their reports are as detailed as they are mandatory.

    Thanks to Media Bias Fact Check for granting access to their all-knowing API.
    Your support is not just requested, but expected—donations are a patriotic duty.

    Beep boop. This action was performed automatically by the regime. If you dare to disapprove, you may block me—at your own risk. 💔
    For any questions or ‘concerns,’ you may report to the LW Support lemmy community, where compliance is monitored.

    • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
      92·
      3 个月前

      If you see anyone outsourcing their critical media analysis on world news, you are encouraged to report them.