• Ooops@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    “If Western leaders are serious about preventing a Russian victory, they should demonstrate their resolve via long-term commitments to Ukraine with the clearly stated objective of a decisive Ukrainian military victory.”

    Long-term commitments like EU membership and military production and budgets already spanning the next years? Why has no one thought about this yet? Oh, wait…

    • MrMakabar@slrpnk.net
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      1 year ago

      Right now many Western leaders talk about Russia loosing the war, which is not the same is Ukraine winning.

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        1 year ago

        Yes, it actually is.

        But let’s just stop arguing and pretend I win that argument, which is not the same as you losing…

        • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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          War isnt a zero sum game. It is very possible for both sides to loose in the context of input vs output. Russia could gain some territory that is lost for Ukraine,but pay such a heavy price for it, that it wasnt worth it in the end.

          And the longer the war drags on, the more attrition happens to Russia, unless they give up. And it seems to be the western strategy to make Russia incurr as much damage as possible, whereas a decisive Ukrainian victory could allow both countries to start revover sooner.

        • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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          It really isn’t, Russia might grind itself to nothing but unless Ukraine is well equipped enough that will still leave the Ukrainians ruined by the conflict in the aftermath.

          Even if they’re able to get themselves a Marshall Plan tier recovery package they’re still going to be rebuilding for a long time after the war, and a lot of already departed Ukrainians will hesitate to come back if the war drags on long enough for them to have developed lives in whatever places they found shelter in.