The Germans were utterly fucked when it came to gathering intelligence because threatening captives doesn’t work. Allies put captured generals in a luxury prison and bugged them.
That was true of Nazi interrogators with the exception of Hanns Scharff. He’s famously known in military intelligence for his use of kindness to extract information from unknowing participants.
It’s almost like Nazis were naturally unkind people.
Yeah. It’s in the name
Nazi is short for national socialist. That wouldn’t per se suggest unkindness by name alone. The appearance is deceptive, of course.
It is worth pointing out that the national socialist party existed before Hitler. As Hitler gained power he forced out the true socialist. By the time he was in power there was no more real socialism in the party.
Socialism is an inherently globalist ideology. Any attempt to replace that with nationalism will lead to results just like the Nazis. Or the CCP, for that matter.
The Nazis weren’t good guys, even before the takeover and the emphasis on eugenics and anti-semitism.
Oh never said they were, I just think it important for people to remember how narcissistic autocrats tend to rewrite history so they were always there first, that is their ideas. They are almost always not the founder. They take popular movements/ideas/products, force there way in and then came it was always theirs.
It is a good reminder for when there are modern examples.
“Globalist” is a white supremacist dogwhistle for Jews.
No, it was a joke. Like the “are we the baddies?” meme
Some, I assume, are good people.
You know they’re not sending their best. 🙄
It kind of does, if you follow the implications and start asking how they resolve the oxymorons.
Turns out, by ignoring one of the words entirely.
I feel like they modify each other.
Socialism is for the betterment of the community. Nationalism allows them to define who is included in that community.
It’s also the Cletus of the time and place.
Ah yes of course, how could one possibly assume unkindness of someone just because they’re a Nazi. It’s just short for two common words, surely we can’t assume genocidal intent or otherwise fairly criticize anyone for something so trivial
And yet later some of them decided gitmo was a good idea…
some of them
Without looking into it, I can guarantee you that no one involved in British Intelligence in WW2 were in the US Army Military Police in Iraq 60 years later. Not everything is connected.
Someone really should look into this.
What I meant though is some of the allies, ie. The US specifically.
Yanks are also dogshit at espionage for this reason. I think by Allies this is more referring to the British, whose intelligence was instrumental in winning the war.
Edit: I’m an idiot, the article says RAF, it was 100% the British.
Even regular pows had it pretty good, lots were out to work on farms in the Midwest then stayed and hung their shingle.
I’ve read about it and iirc, it’s wasn’t even official mission. It was just pilots goofing off and dropping a training bomb, without command approval.
They had training missions into enemy territory with fake ordinance?
More like they had access to training bombs and planes, and frequently flew over enemy territory, so they put those things together and got a mad prank out of it.
Eeeyup! And IIRC consequences back at base but eh, worth it.
And did their CO ever do anything that landed him in the history books besides yelling at them for this historical prank? You are welcome, sir.
I was about to ask. I’d hope command didn’t risk a pilot’s life to reveal strategic intel.
Where did you read about it?
As a German I was wondering how the Red Army Faction time-travelled to WW2.
Turns out RAF = Royal Air Force
When I first moved to Germany, I was surprised by the amount of leftists that seemed to support the Royal Air Force, lol
For WW2, It’s complicated, they did fight the nazis but they also applied carpet bombing.
You can appreciate one without forgetting the other.
Technically, yes. They were really for the Red Army Faction though.
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Danke, das war verwirrend
Yet, wasn’t surprised they had bombers? :p
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Anyone have an actual citation on this particular fact?
I did and turns out this fact is made of wood.
I fucking knew it.
Unfortunately, unlikely, per Snopes: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wooden-bomb/
This is one of those things where I truly don’t care if it’s real or not, as my life is better for knowing about it either way.
That is very Monty Pythonesque. British humor is something special
I assume they knew because of the enigma cracking?
If that was the only way they knew they wouldn’t have done it. The Germans not knowing the enigma was cracked was a lot more important than a silly prank.
Would’ve been embarrassing if they’d been wrong and the airfield was real
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What a flex
Lmao, absolutely. Imagine being the reconnaissance that had to report this to command.
Someone needs to make a “Hitler reacts” parody video for this story.
lol hell yes
“But ve worked very hard to trick you :(”
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