Peertube is federated. It seems to work similarly to Lemmy. I went on a random instance and clicked “discover” and noticed that I see videos from other instances. So at least the hosting cost is distributed across instances.

The other issue then is the bandwidth. Peertube uses p2p among viewers, so if there are many viewers at the same time they can take a significant load off from the server. Instances can also cache each other’s videos to split the bandwidth cost between them.

I think these design decisions means that it is possibly viable, though it is definitely way more expensive than non-video federated communities.

I don’t think such an aggregator is required. Interoperability is smooth enough that you don’t have to think about different instances most of the time. I’ve only really noticed two points that would be confusing:

• the sign up process
• the “local”/“all” distinction

So I think what we really need to do to make this platform intuitive to people that aren’t already familiar with it is:

• Somehow streamline signing up. The process from googling Lemmy to having an account on an instance should not be confusing or intimidating.
• Filter by “all” by default. The default should cater to the users which are less likely to figure it out themselves. If you don’t understand what instances are and what “local” vs “all” means, then you are probably here for the “all” experience. If you understand and really want “local” you are probably fine having to set it yourself.

Fair enough. I think it would be more accurate to say that you don’t care about the benefits of federation, rather than there not being any.

But it while you feel fine with the “current process” clearly from an end-user perspective, it’s worth considering how the process might harm you too indirectly. Some communities, especially niche ones, might not survive a migration. An enormous amount of information might eventually get lost if the old site dies or pivots to something that doesn’t retain all the content.

And then there’s all the things that can go wrong with giving all our data to a single entity. Maybe sometime in the future we find ourselves dependent on AI services and they go to shit. Now it’s not obvious that we can keep migrating every decade because only a select few tech giants have the big data required to create competing services. And that sucks because we’re the ones who generated it and gave it away.

Hopefully, the streamlining of the fediverse, which I agree needs to happen, will not be everyone signing on to the same instance, but rather the federation working great and the interfaces feeling so seamless that the average user feels like everything is in the same place without it really being so.

This is a great video on the carbon footprint campaign:

Why your ‘Carbon Footprint’ Is A Lie | Climate Town

I really don’t understand the benefit of being federated

The benefit is to prevent this from being the next Reddit. Being a nonprofit doesn’t really guarantee anything in the long term. OpenAI was a non profit and now it isn’t… Rather than trust a single entity to not abuse its power, federation aims to not give any entity all the power to begin with.

It also solves practical problems. Which single benign entity would pay for the servers and internet connections to become the new reddit? I don’t think there is one.