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Cake day: September 8th, 2023

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  • Hey guys, this right here is a super valuable point to address and really strikes straight to the heart of the ability of a system like this to give the illusion of choice. People absolutely will still think, despite this, they are still in control and we need to address it not dismiss it.

    I’m undoing the downvote on this comment, it absolutely is a big part of the conversation, even if you think it’s naive.














  • Sure, but once they establish a pattern of non-compliance it doesn’t reset with each new instruction. They expect he will resist getting out of the car based on his refusal to roll down the window. At that point they have to choose whether to get him out of the car quickly, or risk non-compliance issue with that, which could involve fleeing or hitting people with his car.

    When officer or public safety are at risk they will always choose to take someone into custody to stabilize the situation and then reassess from there.

    The situation with the window can’t be separated from the treatment with the door.