bmoney

sure, but some critiques make more sense than others

i think in some ways the zuck, while lacking of morals, is a true believer of, like, living on the web

its insane the amount of money and time has been dumped into the meta verse. i think he would do more if he could justify it

its convenience

reddit has become too easy so people dont care i guess

i dunno man, its wild to me

whats really funny sad to me is how mods get no real respect right now or maybe ever

like are some mods lame, sure, but its a super thankless job that i dont think gets enough cred and thats the part that i think has disappointed me the most. mods are super needed online, and its a shame some people cannot see that

well i still dont see disrespect or invalidation of they way you feel, unless defederation makes you question what is real around you, which i guess i assumed you didnt feel “crazy or insane” due to people disagreeing with you

and did you even read that thread? this is what you replied to that i saw

right? it wasn’t anywhere near a big deal or an insult to other instances it’s “we don’t have the resources to handle any possible bad actors from big instances with loose >registration requirements, so we’re defederating from them until we feel that we can handle it”

the correct response to this is “oh, okay; hope they figure it out such that they can federate with us again in the future”; people are blowing this out of proportion

how was that gaslighting or disrespectful to the way you felt about it. where am i being disrespectful, outside of disagreeing with you?

Edit: furthermore aren’t you doin the same thing

a reply of yours further down

I don’t believe you to be honest. I haven’t seen any hostility towards beehaw admins, or any toxicity whatsoever on the fediverse at all, whether lemmy.world or otherwise. You claim that the only thing you see is people being extremely hostile. So where are they?

are you not, by your definition gaslighting them?

quote me

i never said that at all. i have done nothing but respect you and your feelings about this matter, while giving you my quite reasonable take

i know we dont have to agree, thats why were not in the walled garden right? i welcome opinions that are different than mine, but you also have to respect what im saying right?

which it certainly doesnt feel like your giving me any benefit of doubt or anything. just assume im just some jerk

how am i being invalidating and disrespectful?

you are upset, thats ok! i dont think thats invalidating. you get to feel however you want, it is annoying that day 2 of my being here there is already some drama

i just dont agree thats its something to be that upset about or to the severity of the problem

its not blackmail, its not gaslighting, nor emotional manipulation

i just dont agree with the opinions you have stated

you are allowed!

but i dont agree with you

you see the difference right?

ive been in the same threads and I have seen none of what you’re talking about, even looked through your history

mostly it seems to be people trying to reasonably explain thats the game we’re playing. they get to do that, and they will not be the only one. Federation and all this is a fairly new thing, there will be pains like this going forward.

in addition, they have not made it permanent. it was about their carefully crafted community. is that lame? maybe, but thats the point of a decentralized platform. Their admins get ultimate control, lemmy.world gets the same freedom

and further more, the whole reason this spat started was your claim of gaslighting happening to you because of some commenters disagreeing with your opinions. which that doesnt fit the definition of the very serious and very damaging technique

why are you so upset in general? have people said you couldnt be upset about it? or were people trying to explain something about a pretty new piece of software? i

ive looked through your history and its very aggravated.

you do know that i cannot deny you your feelings, no matter how hard i might try? im just a UN somewhere in the world, your feelings are real and your own

you can keep using gaslighting incorrectly too, i aint the word police, but you are using the word objectively incorrectly. which im a sucker for letting people know

but maybe you should think about how your presenting yourself. believe what you want about whatever dude, but you do post here publicly, which implies your willing to have discussion about your opinions

lol maybe this is why beehaw peaced out

because you are super mischaracterizing what ive said. i disagree with your opinion, thats true

i didnt undermine anything, i disagree with your statements

i told you what the definition of a specific abusive psychological technique, which you are not experiencing on behalf of a different instance

im not uncomfortable at all, i just dont want to upset you. which it seems you are

i am not making you question reality, i disagree with your opinions

beehaw can do whatever they want with their instance, that is literally the point of this platform

its not a personal attack on anyone here

is it dumb? maybe

but its not making you crazy

lol ok man sure

ill leave you be i guess, im not here to argue

but its objectively not gaslighting

its not gas lighting. the term “gaslighting” to refer to a specific type of manipulation where the manipulator is trying to get someone else (or a group of people) to question their own reality, memory or perceptions.

the bees aint making you question reality

what they are doing may be a mistake and misguided, but again, this is a decentralized/federated social media platform. they get to do that

the beauty of it, if we can focus on the communities in lemmy.world and other places that are federated here, it wont matter in the end. you will still be serviced content and comments

i dunno man, its not personal is all im sayin

bro, its not gaslighting

stop that nonsense

no one said youre not allowed to be upset, you just have to deal with it as the nature of this specific platform. it may suck but thats life.

just gotta interact with other communities, bring the vibes up in other communities and it will soon no longer matter

LOL i feel that for sure

def has that fresh, non jaded vibe so that helps

ya thats the vibe ive always gotten too

that is hilarious

yup thats how i feel too

like reddit is a monster that will never be slain i think at this point, so whats the point of fighting it really

i just want this place to be as dope as it can be

aay me too!

tho i dunno if i believe in middle age

i think youre young until your not ;)

with some of the kinks of lemmy i dont think im spending as much time as i was on reddit

but i am spending a decent amount and thats been awesome. i do think the more old school vibe is really effecting how i wanna connect here. its maybe less time but more quality

people have been really nice

im sure that will change at somepoint if our dreams become reality but its been a unique exp if nothing else.

i say go for it

im noone but i think it sounds cool. more people doin more shit here is prolly a good thing