Those who flee when things get bad are also going somewhere for a better life.

And my example of applying your logic still fits as many people who come to the US have fled countries that were going to shit.

Are you going to say that for example every Philippino who has moved away for a better life because the Philippines is pretty shite to live in if your aren’t rich - are cowards?

You can think what I’m saying is annoying all you want, but you cannot just make a blanket statement for people who are leaving the US and calling them cowards without applying that logic to other people in other countries who have done the same. And I think most of us would get a bad taste in our mouths if we started saying that Philippinos are cowards for leaving their country instead of staying and fixing their country. It’s not that simple. Especially not for those groups in society who are being persecuted.

I don’t think that. I’m just applying your logic to the reality of the United States being a nation of immigrants who aren’t native to the land they inhabit. Therefore it is a nation built by cowards. People still migrate to the US today, btw. And they marry the descendants of the cowards so the cowardly traits will never die out there.

Or maybe, just maybe, people who migrate to another country are just looking for ways to live a free and happy life? Maybe those to move some place else have better opportunities somewhere else and they prefer to live in peace with their family rather than being potentially thrown in concentration camps or killed by their government. It is so easy to sit there and say that people who move away from an area are cowards. Just like it is easy for me to make the conclusion that all of US is cowardly because all of them (except the natives) either migrated there or descend from generation upon generation of migrants. You are correct in objecting to that conclusion and calling it strange because that is indeed a strange thing to conclude. Just like it is strange of you to conclude that those who move away from the US currently are cowards. It is strange and a downright foolish statement to make.

It’s relevant because if we go by your logic, then the entire country of USA is made by and for cowards since all of them, except for the native Americans, are either immigrants or descendants of immigrants. Ergo, the United States is inherently cowardly.

Have been donating to them yearly for a few years after they started their donation campaign. I forget how much I donate, but I’m considering raising my yearly donation now xD

Facts don’t care about your feelings, Elon.

I have talked to some Americans who claims that sperm + egg = baby and I want to place an egg in front of them and ask them what it is and if they say anything other than a chicken, I will laugh.

Also, thank you for the distinction. Kind of insane to call embryos babies. It is shit like this that makes me feel like my brain is shrinking when I talk to some people online.

I’m sure he will do his damnedest to dismantle everything, but I don’t believe he will succeed. He may get away with it for a little while, but this shit isn’t going to last.

I fully believe it will be the wake up call America has desperately needed for a very long time. Countries like Russia and China never really had democracy and they never had freedom as a value so that is why I don’t think trump will be successful in the long term with his little stunt here. It will get worse before it gets better and America is currently in the finding out phase that we learned in Europe in the 40s.

That is how I look at it.

The short answer: yes.

The long answer: it will take a long time to completely dismantle a democracy in a country as big and complex as America. You don’t just do that in three months.

All trump has done so far is move as fast as possible to make as much of a mess as possible in the hopes that some of his nutty ideas goes through once the system catches up to him. And the system will catch up to him and Musk and all the other cunts who are having their little ego fest currently.

I have patience. Kind of. I look forward to seeing the consequences of their actions come to haunt them. I also hope this period in American politics will be the wake up call America needs to hopefully bar politicians and political parties from taking donations from big corps essentially try to buy the government and weaken true democracy from flourishing. The US isn’t the only country with this problem, but it is certainly neck deep in one of the worst outcomes of letting big corporations take ownership of a government.

This feels like the modern version of those people who gave out the numbers on their credit cards back in the 2000s and would freak out when their bank accounts got drained.

Indeed. I deleted my reddit account recently. I like it better here anyways. The pace is slower and the people seem more reasonable here too. My stress levels have decreased significantly since I left Meta and Reddit and that is at once wonderful and scary. Social media is a cancer.

Solidarity hug! I hope we will all have a better future ahead of us than the current trajectory. 🤗❤️

Honestly, there is no need for any of us to bomb the US when the US government pretty much does that already.

For what it is worth, I hope your friends find better lives to where ever they have relocated. I also hope that you find a way to live that is happy and peaceful in spite of what is happening in your country.

I am currently preparing myself for a semi-perminent state of war in Europe where Russia will terrorize in the east and America will terrorize in the west. I hope that it won’t get that far, but I am also preparing myself for my country being possibly invaded by America. Hopefully this won’t happen, but the way things are moving, I’m starting to preparing myself for it.

I feel sad for the kids who have to grow up in this scenario. I hope my own nieces and nephews will get to experience a peaceful Europe again someday. The only good thing to come out of this is is that we have been forced to stand up for ourselves instead of relying on others. It was weak of us to believe that the rest of the world learned the same lessons during ww2 that we did. Russia obviously didn’t and neither did America. Where our takeaway from ww2 was humility, responsibility and forgiveness, the US spent decades making romantic war movies where they cast themselves as the heroes of ww2. It was always about glory and ego for the US. There was very little in understanding of the cost of that war and that makes sense because it didn’t happen in your backyard. And maybe that is why your country loves war so much. Because war never happens to you. It is something you inflict on others or use to make yourselves richer. (I don’t mean you personally, I’m talking about the institution)

Ah, don’t worry. I do not hold the American people responsible for what has happened to your country. When it comes down to it, the individual American has very little say in what it’s government is doing and in my opinion, your government has been very successful in manipulating its population into believing in a very untrue and very romantic image of how America is and how it is perceived in the world at large.

So don’t apologize. You can’t help where you were born and raised, neither can the rest of the world’s population. I cant help that i was born and raised in a country that decided to spy on its european neighbors for America and i would be very annoyed if people online blamed me personally for what some retards in charge have decided to do. If anything, my sympathies goes out to people like you who are trapped in that hellhole. I do hope this is just a very unfortunate stumble in American history and that your country will return to form and eventually evolve socially like I have wished for you for decades.

I will be honest, I have very few nice things to say about America, long before trump even came on my radar. I have despised America for most of my life, but I don’t hate all Americans. At all. It’s not your fault your country is built on a system that caters to the rich and teaches its people that all things that are good for the people is evil communism while all things good for the 1% is good for everybody. You guys deserves so much better.

America as an institution and a public face on the world scene, however, I have no love for. I never had and I wasn’t surprised when it decided to stab us in the back the moment we needed it despite us bleeding money and young men’s blood for the American institution for 20 years. I am not surprised that we are being treated this way. It fits perfectly with the American playbook I have witnessed since I was a kid and saw Bush use 911 to invade the middle east and high key sent a message to the rest of us that if we weren’t on America’s side we would be their enemy. Which is partially why I think we ended up joining you in Iraq and Afghanistan.

But no, I’m not surprised that this is our reward for bleeding for the American institution. Threats of annexing our territory, childish insults to our politicians, abandoning Ukraine and making friends with Russia. America has only ever cared about its own interests while pretending to be the world hero. All trump did was going mask off and that must be a shock to some Americans who believed the American institution was good and selfless.

Let me see… since new years you have threatened to annex Greenland, had Musk call our finest astronaut retarded, called our Prime Minister retarded, recently Roger Stone called one of our conservative politicians a sick demented asshole on Twitter when said politician asked for the general secretary of NATO to not joke about Trump and Greenland and… oh yeah, Trump and Vance attacked and insulted our dear friend, President Zelenskyj on world wide TV.

So… how about no? Oh, I’m sorry: no, thank you.

Ah the whataboutism. I have run into that one too when I argue against recreational drugs. Pro drug users always always always bring up alcohol and everytime I’m like "yes, alcohol sucks too and I would ideally see it phased out of society instead of adding weed and cocaine etc to the legality club. And then they start their blabbering about how restrictions just makes the black market boom and yadda yadda and you shouldn’t have any restrictions because criminals will win, then. But I’m still like: yeah, but making accessibility easier will also not benefit society.

It’s the same discussion as it is with guns. They never want to actually talk about the issues, but would rather deflect and focus the discussion in on topics that has less and less and less to do with the original point. Ignore all your arguments and declare themselves the winner of the discussion because they feel they successfully won against their own strawman argument instead of actually trying to engage in the conversation.

I have always thought you could make that point with something like a knife. It is a tool made to assist in chores. You can use the knife to feed your family or kill your family. The knife is just a knife.

But a gun is specifically designed to kill. There is literally no other purpose for the gun. You can’t use it in a kitchen. You can’t use it to carve tools. Its only use it to take life.

That’s why the guns don’t kill people mantra rings endlessly hollow to me.

Also imagine being so stupid as to, among other things, threaten to annex Greenland and then also ask Denmark to export eggs to America.