@spankmonkey @PonyOfWar I caught a public bus to high school. To get an extra 20m of sleep I caught the one that didn’t go into the school and stopped on the wrong side of the road 1m before school started. To not be late we’d all walk out across the 4 lane road without looking. Cars will just stop.

After someone was rear ended the stop was removed.

@avidamoeba My gravel bike is steel. Steel is a good material to make bikes from. That is bikes intended to be used and repaired.

@avidamoeba @mapto Those are back because they are really sensible bikes for riding the places and ways most people cycle.

@PhilthyHabits @JackbyDev What’s my point? Australian stadiums are better than the worst examples from the US, but they aren’t fantastic.

@PhilthyHabits @JackbyDev Melbourne’s big stadiums do have substantial car parks, but they are also a short walk from at least 1 central train station with ~10 platforms.

@umbrella @ertai looks a lot safer to be hit by than a car.

@dessalines @PowerCrazy No, it really is feasible to have PT close enough to everyone’s house. Some will choose a bike to cut 15m walking into 5m riding, but it isn’t required.

Part of that is that every neighbourhood needs all types of housing. Okay, not every one needs high rise apartments. But medium rise next to the station above the restaurants and retail, surrounded by town houses, surrounded by units, surrounded by 1/3rd acre house blocks

It really isn’t crazy

Utopia needs many changes

@rekabis I wasn’t talking about pedal confusion, just the attentiveness needed for safety.

Size of vehicle makes the attention required to operate safely around other people higher. Both from risk due to vehicle bulk and mass, and the difficulty in being aware of your surroundings that a larger and higher vehicle has.

@rekabis @fpslem Honestly, I don’t think any human is attentive enough to drive a SUV in a town.

@mondoman712 @felykiosa it depends a little onthe road in question, there are roads with a sinple lane wide enough that a single file of cyclists are passable without crossing into oncoming traffic, but two abreast isn’t.

But we all know this isn’t what happened here. Driver just wanted to let his priveledge show.

@howrar @tpid98 I would hope a pedal powered e-trike would be using direct chain drive from pedals to wheels, the efficiency of that is very hard to beat.

@utopiah Just need requirements for airbags, etc to be dropped :(

@utopiah @tpid98 I wish kilow’s vehicle would be legal here. I’d love one of those.

@Lysergid schedules should be set up for ‘normal’ traffic, some days have less traffic than that.

@Lysergid @OlPatchy2Eyes Is it a scheduled stop? Having a bus sit there for 5 minutes when it is running fast would really suck. But I’d need a lot more than such a screen shot to know if this is a horrible stop or one that just looks silly.

There is a lot that goes into where stops should optimally be.

@IllNess @PowerCrazy Mini roundabouts don’t sound like a sane idea to me.

@jonne Yeah, many things need fixing ;)

@AllNewTypeFace @jonne Why wouldn’t freight go electric? I know some of the coal trains lines in Australia are electric, which I understand is a bit of a different beast to freight, but it is similar in most ways.

@Landsharkgun @Moonrise2473 With solid PT there shouldn’t be a reason for a private passenger vehicle to travel faster than 40kmph

@istanbullu @Virusjar engineers that are much too sure of themselves and not designing for real world failures.