The internet’s fine - the web’s the problem.

ssh, Call of Duty, email, random voice-call software on strange ports - all of them work fine. People have problems with websites.

Plenty of websites of course are fine, the problems present when people use search engines and find a bunch of guff written by a bot, Paywalls, and sign-up screens.

They say the best way to predict the future is to create it, so if you want to help there, ‘make good art’, write and share good content, don’t feed the machine. Sounds like you’re doing that already if you’re on Lemmy.

And if you want to check out a quieter corner of the internet, where things aren’t all in-your-face-sing-up-click-here-now-NOW-DOIT…download the lagrange browser and check out Gemini. It’s a mostly plain-text protocol, where people read and write, and sometimes share whacky music.

Haggis whiskers are similar, but quite rare nowadays.

One of the greatest joys of federation, is de-federation.

Kbin is very young software. The dev was doing really well, then /u/spez dumped 10-bajillion users on it. I’m surprised the servers are still operating.

Lemmy’s a lot more mature, but it’s never been tested with this kind of traffic. It’s impressive that any of these sites are still going. I’d give it at least another month until things settle, adjustments are made, instances update, et c. et c.

An art instance is a brave move. Lemmy takes up a lot of disk space already, but encouraging images means a lot more disk space. Lemmy also allows multiple images per post.

I don’t think anyone can tell where we’re going. Mastodon.social was the largest instance by far for some time, then at the deluge, it splintered.

Part of the reason for Mastodon to fracture is specialization - each instance does something unique. Maybe Lemmy will do the same, maybe not.

But if we end up with 3 primary instances, it’s still decentralized - I think the most useful feature of Lemmy isn’t that we’re spread out, it’s that we could be.

More like a teenager with their first job.

This week, Lemmy becomes a man.

In all fairness to the devs, Lemmy’s had a dozen users + the devs until now, then /u/spez pulls his stunt, and we’re looking at how it operates with 0.0000000000001% of Reddit, which is apparently 20-bajillion people.

The features sound good, and judging by Lemmy, I imagine they’re coming, depending on how much free time the devs have.

there’s no reason for a general-purpose instance to defederate from lemmynsfw.com

This one’s trickier. The mods have mentioned both moderation and legal difficulties with nsfw instances. If something illegal’s posted, then whoever has the server would (verifiably) have a copy of that image and has been (verifiably) distributing it. Reddit probably managed to skirt these issues by a) being early, when the world was new, and laws were weak, and b) having the money for a legal team.

I wouldn’t want to be an admin trying to answer legal questions.

What I most from Reddit, is the communities there. Nobody can nuke that - if Lemmy.ml disappears, those groups will have (or make) copies elsewhere.

I don’t think anyone follows me on Reddit, but if I followed people, I guess they’d re-emerge soon after. Of course that’s not great if you follow 100 people - Mastodon’s much better at retaining that sort of thing.

There’s a Github issue about it here.

There’s a lot to answer on what exactly that would mean. Would you be able to edit old posts from the new instance? What if the new instance already defederated from the old? Would you retain the same username? Or are you simply getting a list of subscriptions, and copying them across?

Users are unable to block whole instances

Sounds like a good feature, though not exactly a ‘disadvantage’, without a comparison. Is the comparison Mastodon? Reddit?

Lemmy is one of the least privacy friendly service I have ever stumbled upon

Could you expand on this? Is it just the deletion problem?

There is no possibility to migrate or backup your subscribed/favorited stuff or even move it to another instance (which somehow is possible on Mastodon),

This took a while to get on Mastodon. Remember, the data’s not necessarily stored in a usable format (users don’t want a load of postgres in their download), and the devs need to be sure that nobody else’s data will accidentally get in there.

There’s an image pre-built with XFCE. If you’re still not happy with Void, due to the TUI installer, et c., it’s probably a bad distro-choice.

I’m still checking it out, though the services are all up and down, so I don’t have a full handle on it yet.

I put in a request to download all my data. It was a GDPR request, so I’m not sure if anyone can do it.

Kbin is new, the distinctions between Magazine and micro-blogging creates an extra barrier to understand the system, the few instances are straining under the load, and it’s very much in beta.

New users won’t be terribly forgiving, so I feel like Lemmy’s the better option.

I never understood why questionable views from software devs might be a problem.

• It’s not a corporation, so you’re not financially supporting tankies.
• Lots of devs don’t share your values, because everyone has different values.

It’s not like I can only use software made by people who don’t eat meat, and everyone’s doctors are partially informed by science performed by the Nazis.

I have no idea what kind of world these people think they’re living in, as if everything were developed with shared values, and a pure conscience, until Lemmy came along.

Nah. I want to defederate from people sharing racial slurs, because I cba with them. If they don’t consider that a ‘consequence’ then I don’t really care.

I definitely don’t want consequences for people sharing negative opinions about governments.

So I guess I just want freedom of speech + personal curation.

I still feel like I need a new term for this. Yet another word co-opted by idiots.

Removed by mod

This would be a great feature - it’s one of the best things about Mastodon. You can’t filter out all the idiots one-by-one, but then you see someone two people posting some sus anime, or fubar politics, and you can block thousands of idiots with three clicks. It’s very satisfying.

Given Lemmy’s conversational layout, I wonder if there aren’t hidden difficulties. Like if there’s a conversation which goes like this:

.
├── person_0
├── idiot_0
│   ├── person_1
│   ├── person_2
│   ├── idiot_1
├── person_3
│   ├── idiot_1

…then which comments should you see? If you block all the idiots, but not replies, then you can’t understand the conversation.

I suspect blocking idiots and all replies would work, but I’m not sure.