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Three sons and three grandchildren of Hamas ’ top political leader were killed Wednesday by an Israeli airstrike in the Gaza Strip, and the leader accused Israel of acting in “the spirit of revenge and murder.”
In his interview with Al Jazeera, Haniyeh said the killings would not pressure Hamas into softening its positions.
“The enemy believes that by targeting the families of the leaders, it will push them to give up the demands of our people,” he said. “Anyone who believes that targeting my sons will push Hamas to change its position is delusional.”
“The criminal enemy is driven by the spirit of revenge and murder and does not value any standards or laws,” he said in the phone interview.
The strike came as Palestinians in Gaza marked a muted Eid al-Fitr holiday, which ends the holy fasting month of Ramadan, by visiting the graves of loved ones killed in the war.
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Contrary to Linkerbaan’s claims, this is mentioned in the article.
From the article:
Separate bit from the article:
What this article fails to contain is any sort of rebuttal - the closest it comes is this, which isn’t a rebuttal or denial:
I can’t find any sources claiming the three were civilians. So to reiterate: Israel killed 7 people, claiming 3 were military targets and 4 were civilian collateral damage. Hamas (or rather, the Hamas leader who was the dead people’s patriarch) claimed the killings were an act of revenge. Both can be true, and I can’t find any sources rebutting either claim.
Small update,
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If your society is content with murdering children based on your belief of what they will grow up to be, it’s not a society I’d be comfortable being part of, associating with, or existing alongside.
May you be judged accordingly.
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Idf says: the would be operatives. Therefore they are not. Either idf claims to predict the future or they killed innocent people either way.
Based on what we know about Israel’s Lavender system, they don’t care if the grankids were there, they already factored in the risk and deemed it acceptable.
The IDF claims that the children would have been Hamas operatives, on account of who their parents were. It’s not hard to extend that reasoning to the grandchildren. After all, their parents were likely to be Hamas operatives as well.
No judge, no jury, just an executioner, based solely upon the IDFs word that they’re likely to become future terrorists. One might apply that same logic to the whole of Palestine.
No, I think I read you perfectly.
The phrase “collateral death” is inhumane and depraved on its own. No American would accept “collateral deaths” of their own service members’ families with a shrug.
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They are as different as 1st degree murder and 3rd degree murder.
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What the fuck is your actual point here? That the 3rd degree killing of children is somehow acceptable? Would it be acceptable for example for Hamas to collaterally kill the families of IDF soldiers?
EDIT: Iran is supposedly soon going to be retaliating against Israel for the bombing of its consulate. Let’s say the target high ranking Israeli military officers (like Israel has been targeting theirs). How many Israeli kids is it acceptable for you to be collaterally killed in such an attack?
My position is no, none, collateral murder of kids is fucking wrong no matter who does it. What the fuck is your position?
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Just calling it “collateral” doesn’t excuse or justify murder.
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Sophistry.
Wow that would “make sense” huh. Do you have any evidence for that “sense” or can someone blow up your entire family if your father does something bad?
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Okay very cool so you endorse wiping out entire families because of one person?
Where is the evidence these people were Hamas
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Rooting for the Nazis is not a great look. Not sure how any person still supports israel.
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I do have evidence they were not. I will debunk all the “presented evidence” in this comment:
Oh wait there is no evidence. That’s right.
Unsure, not mentioned in the article. They don’t seem to be “registered Hamas members” though israel claims them as such. But we already know that israel is using an AI system that rates Palestinians on Hamas likelihood by things like the Whatsapp groups they are in, who their family is and where they live etc.
It seems to be a political assassination on a holiday rather than an attack on soldiers though. Acccording to France24:
They were killed in a car along with their grandchildren including a daughter which is unlikely company to bring along for an attack on the IDF.
Must be terrorist activities like picking up aid or going to school.
IDF logic: if they’re related to Hamas, then they must be Hamas. If they get food or go to school, they are feeding Hamas and training Hamas, which is terrorism.