Ground level ozone and the ozone hole are two different issues. The delayed EPA regulations would be limiting ozone produced. At ground level, ozone has various health hazards. The ozone hole is from ozone depleting substances reaching high altitude in the environment and destroying naturally occurring ozone. That high elevation ozone blocks UV light from the sun, and is protective for those of us who dislike skin cancer it what not.
Reading the second article I see what you mean. Still, no political momentum to correct course is annoying, though it does make a strange addition at the bottom of the article. They could have linked all manner of different protections that are being delayed if there are more.
Probably one of those times I need to lament the current state of journalism that that was included. I’d argue the ozone layer is one where there is global political momentum with an example of some recent mystery emissions such as this article. That said this article we were already discussing seems to bring up some other mechanisms for the hole enlarging beyond the usual ozone depleting substances.
That’s exactly why I got a vasectomy. If it really comes down to it adopting is the better choice since those kids are already stuck existing so might as well just try to make the world slight less miserable for them
Fertility rates are already below replacement. Africa will probably also get there within our lifetimes, so there will be nowhere to get new people from
We don’t need more people. Yes, we built a stupid economic system that expects constant growth, but we don’t need that system, either. When world population drops under a billion, let me know and I might change my mind.
Except the second article does mention ‘it avoids a fight during an election yeah with industry and republicans’ but then later looks like they are trying to say that’s not at all why and want to take time. I don’t know, sorta seems like the election played a part in the decision
“Last month, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency delayed plans to tighten ozone pollution standards until after the 2024 presidential election.”
Huzzah! More political BS playing games with the planet and all our lives.
We’re so doomed. A coworker asked if I was interested in kids and I said I would feel bad bringing a child into this mess.
Ground level ozone and the ozone hole are two different issues. The delayed EPA regulations would be limiting ozone produced. At ground level, ozone has various health hazards. The ozone hole is from ozone depleting substances reaching high altitude in the environment and destroying naturally occurring ozone. That high elevation ozone blocks UV light from the sun, and is protective for those of us who dislike skin cancer it what not.
Reading the second article I see what you mean. Still, no political momentum to correct course is annoying, though it does make a strange addition at the bottom of the article. They could have linked all manner of different protections that are being delayed if there are more.
Probably one of those times I need to lament the current state of journalism that that was included. I’d argue the ozone layer is one where there is global political momentum with an example of some recent mystery emissions such as this article. That said this article we were already discussing seems to bring up some other mechanisms for the hole enlarging beyond the usual ozone depleting substances.
That’s exactly why I got a vasectomy. If it really comes down to it adopting is the better choice since those kids are already stuck existing so might as well just try to make the world slight less miserable for them
Fertility rates are already below replacement. Africa will probably also get there within our lifetimes, so there will be nowhere to get new people from
We don’t need more people. Yes, we built a stupid economic system that expects constant growth, but we don’t need that system, either. When world population drops under a billion, let me know and I might change my mind.
Don’t worry, if we have WW3 we’ll be lucky if we can stay in the hundreds of millions.
This has nothing to do with the ozone layer in the stratosphere, but pollution in cities and industrial areas.
“interested in kids” I think they mighta meant something else O.O
Honestly, it just seems like this shit’ll never stop and no one gives a fuck in Washington. Everyone’s too busy playing politics
That quote is technically true, but based on the article they link, it doesn’t sound to me like the delay and the election are related.
Nor is ozone pollution related to the hole in the ozone layer.
No idea why that’s actually thrown in at all.
To catch people (like me :( ) who didn’t read the second article.
Except the second article does mention ‘it avoids a fight during an election yeah with industry and republicans’ but then later looks like they are trying to say that’s not at all why and want to take time. I don’t know, sorta seems like the election played a part in the decision
Well, zero chance of House Republicans even letting it come to a vote.
It blows my mind seeing people with little kids. Like, WTF is wrong with them?
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Okay, like china? India? Calm down. The US has a huge chunk of the co2 amount so it’s kind of important. Plus the article talks about it?