Although his legislation failed, the late Connecticut Senator and one-time vice presidential candidate kept attention on the issue after the U.S. withdrawal from the Kyoto protocol.
Joseph Lieberman is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans and Iraqis. He was a right wing zealot who never sought “middle ground” on anything in his sanctimonious life. This narrative buys his own PR spin and is lazy, stupid, and divorced from reality. This is like covering Donald Trump posthumously as “A great business genius with a very good brain, and very good other parts (wink) with normal to large sized hands, who was the greatest president in history and won 2020 by 700 million votes.” Would the entire neoliberal media complex do that?
He was absolutely a warmonger. He also made a serious effort around cap and trade, but was blocked by Republicans. People with a mix of right and left wing views exist, and he was one.
cap and trade, which provides assurances about total aggregate emissions, but not price
carbon tax, which provides assurances about price, but not aggregate emissions
They’re both reasonable approaches, and we’d have been better off with a working cap and trade system than nothing at all, which was the actual right-wing position.
I’m absolutely not arguing that we are better off without them. I’m not sure what the models are predicting they can do at this point rather than 20 years ago, but I’m not arguing for doing nothing versus caps/taxes.
I’m just saying it’s not what I’d characterize as a “left” position. I’d call it a center-right position.
I fondly remember this turd of a human was the single senator who blocked the single payer part of united health care, which would have given US citizens & residents government provided basic health care, and now everyone has to deal with a half assed measure that isn’t even close.
How does a serious effort towards George HW Bush’s free-market based climate solution make him any less of a right winger? Newt Gingrich appeared in climate ads around 2000. Is he a big lefty? Just because Trump has made the GOP a Hezbollah-style religious party dedicated to him over the material interests of capital doesn’t make what came before that ‘left’.
Joseph Lieberman is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans and Iraqis. He was a right wing zealot who never sought “middle ground” on anything in his sanctimonious life. This narrative buys his own PR spin and is lazy, stupid, and divorced from reality. This is like covering Donald Trump posthumously as “A great business genius with a very good brain, and very good other parts (wink) with normal to large sized hands, who was the greatest president in history and won 2020 by 700 million votes.” Would the entire neoliberal media complex do that?
He was absolutely a warmonger. He also made a serious effort around cap and trade, but was blocked by Republicans. People with a mix of right and left wing views exist, and he was one.
Are you referring to cap and trade - a market based solution - as “left wing?”
There are two market based approaches out there:
They’re both reasonable approaches, and we’d have been better off with a working cap and trade system than nothing at all, which was the actual right-wing position.
I’m absolutely not arguing that we are better off without them. I’m not sure what the models are predicting they can do at this point rather than 20 years ago, but I’m not arguing for doing nothing versus caps/taxes.
I’m just saying it’s not what I’d characterize as a “left” position. I’d call it a center-right position.
However you characterize it: he favored action over unbridled emissions.
That would be a different conversation.
Was the topic, if you remember, for which an example of him being left would help.
I fondly remember this turd of a human was the single senator who blocked the single payer part of united health care, which would have given US citizens & residents government provided basic health care, and now everyone has to deal with a half assed measure that isn’t even close.
How does a serious effort towards George HW Bush’s free-market based climate solution make him any less of a right winger? Newt Gingrich appeared in climate ads around 2000. Is he a big lefty? Just because Trump has made the GOP a Hezbollah-style religious party dedicated to him over the material interests of capital doesn’t make what came before that ‘left’.