• SexWithDogs@infosec.pub
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    8 months ago

    Capitalism ends where left begins.

    I’m not sure if you’re gatekeeping or just generalizing.

    • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      8 months ago

      Neither. The left/right divide is Socialism/Capitalism. There are various Overton Windows, ie what is considered left or right when compared to an areas median, like Liberalism being left of the American median despite being a right-wing, Capitalist ideology.

      Anarchism, Communism, Marxism, and other forms of Socialism are leftist, while Liberalism, Social Democracy, and fascism are rightist.

      • SexWithDogs@infosec.pub
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        Uh. Okay. If you say so. I wasn’t going to say anything about the No True Scotsman fallacy, but you really did force my hand with that last one. That’s outright silly, and a pretty vile attempt to coerce conformity out of of other progressives who don’t align with your perspective on economics by thinking you can label them “right-wing” for it.

        • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          How would you propose left/right be divided, if not by the commonly accepted mechanics by which they differ?

          • SexWithDogs@infosec.pub
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            edit-2
            8 months ago

            I’m so glad you asked.

            commonly accepted mechanics

            I’m beginning to feel a little gas-lit.

            • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              8 months ago

              That refers to the Overton Window, as you can see it’s generally just vibes, and not actual measurable mechanics.

              • SexWithDogs@infosec.pub
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                3
                ·
                8 months ago

                Right. I must’ve missed that because I don’t care about this conversation at all. Labels were never my thing to begin with. But you can call me right-wing if it makes you feel better, as long as I get to keep my trans boyfriend.

                • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  8 months ago

                  You asked me, so I answered. Personally, I think left/right is hopelessly reductive, it ties too many unrelated things together, and says nothing of social views, of which you’re presumably very progressive despite right wing economic views.

                  That’s why I wouldn’t call you “right wing” before I called you a liberal, which I’m sure we are both comfortable with.

                  • SexWithDogs@infosec.pub
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    3
                    ·
                    8 months ago

                    Hey, you’re the expert.

                    I personally couldn’t care less about economics. There are too many things to be right and passionate about for me to start worrying about all that theoretical insanity.