Eh, this generational conflict stuff is nonsense. For years I’ve run teams of boomers, X, Y, and now Z. Have I had to punt some younger folks because they couldn’t work past some not-work-relevant difference with someone else in the office? Sure. But that’s not a Z thing at all.
Anyone who can’t check their personal baggage at the door and get work done as part of a team ends up being shown to the sidewalk. There’s no generational component to this, it’s happening to everyone of all ages.
Interesting way of saying “they won’t bend over and spread their arse cheeks”.
Some guy says some thing. This is no different from an out of touch boomer saying kids these days don’t want to work.
I read this as Gen Z doesn’t tolerate the boomer/older Gen X intolerant/racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic bullshit that younger Gen X/Older Millennials had to, and a lot of folks receiving this deserved pushback don’t like it.
¯\(ツ)/¯
Thus…proving the point? “If a person thinks I can’t handle disagreement, I bet it’s because they’re some kind of asshole nazi or something! It would be wrong of me to tolerate a difference of opinion with them!”
If the only disagreement you can tolerate is irrelevant minutia, then you aren’t actually tolerant. “I’m totally tolerant, as long as our opinions don’t differ on race, culture, gender, sexual relations, work, religion, or politics” is pretty weak sauce.
Well, I guess so, because when a guy I work with told me that we don’t hire good people in engineering anymore because all we focus on are gender and skin color, and giving 0 fucks that I am a woman who works with him as an engineer because that’s what I got my degree in and I guess I should have thought about his feelings all those years ago when I applied there or some shit.
It was all of the other people I work with who maybe don’t resemble this guy either but who are very qualified engineers and who I was making sure to be tolerant of when I reported this and several other remarks by the same guy to management.
Does this mean we can’t be friends? :(
You guys literally couldn’t be leaning into Gen-Z stereotypes any harder.
“Some guy says Gen-Z doesn’t have the ability to respectfully disagree.”
“Man FUCK that guy, I bet he’s an intolerant/racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic piece of shit, and that’s why he can’t get along with us, because it’s definitely not our problem!”
“Uhh, it sorta feels like you’re demonstrating that you really don’t have the ability to disagree.”
<downvote> <downvote> <downvote> <downvote> <downvote> “Lol just cuz I reported a guy who said a thing that hurt my feelings, does that mean we can’t be friends?! Lol jk fuck you too buddy!”
No, sure, you’re totally right, you guys are a real delight to have in conversations and debates.
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nah never had that issue and I’m pretty fuckin opinionated. As a chef I argue more with old heads than gen z or millennials.
old fuckers think they know everything
I hate these generation based things. Some little time ago there was odd stuff about millennials everywhere. Now Gen-Z. In a few years Gen Alpha. Then whatever comes next and so on.
People just like to label people. And generations are just another option.
We just reposting the same things from 10 years ago with “millennials” replaced by “gen z?”
I’m guessing someone got called out for being a right wing shit head and now his poor little feelings are hurt.
It is hilarious that this thread proves the article right.
It literally does the opposite but ok
Proposition:
“Gen Z is bad at discussion”
Reaction:
“Gen Z isn’t bad at discussion, everyone at the workplace has bad opinions and we shouldn’t have to discuss”
Reality:
Offices aren’t filled to the brim with evil people and yes you do have to talk to people you disagree with on a high level. Gen Z probably really does have issues with actual high level discussion because they’ve grown up their whole life surrounded by Internet echo chambers. This includes right wingers.
This is a continuation of the dance around what’s being talked about. The reaction isn’t that ‘other people’s opinions are bad’. The reaction is that oppressive behavior being passed off as innocuous opinion is not genuine opinion, and cannot be tolerated in a peaceful society. But yeah, let’s minimize the opposing view like a cable TV news anchor.
The reaction isn’t that ‘other people’s opinions are bad’. The reaction is that oppressive behavior being passed off as innocuous opinion
The assumption is that this is about oppressive behavior and you’re entitled to hold firm in this mindset. The reality is that there’s likely a genuine issue here and that issue is happily driven and worsened by these sort of assumptions.
Take some time to read up on the person making the claims. Female CEO of a large news network isn’t exactly part of the old boys club.
I definitely see this as “we can’t get away with the boys club anymore” rather than a problem with Gen Z. Gen Z won’t hide their unhappiness with any of the -isms and will call it out instead of just keeping their head down.
Fair enough. But if you don’t tell someone why you are unhappy with them or the situation they control, then nothing improves for anyone.
I believe the impetus is on the bigot to figure their shit out. It is exhausting arguing with bigots, and it is not people’s job to teach them how not to be a bigot. There is enough information out there now that you should know not to be an intolerant asshole, and if someone chooses instead to be a piece of shit, I’m comfortable with them being ostracized while they sort themselves out. And if they can’t, I’m comfortable with them dying old, alone and confused wondering why nobody visits them.
This sounds like you are promoting an “I’m right, your wrong, and I have no responsibility to correct or educate.” mentality. I’m not sure if trusting the people with opposing views to change on their own is the best approach. I think only deepens divides and entrenches opposition.
People with opposing ideas do exist in a vacuum and will have no problem putting the time in to recruiting others to their way of thinking and promoting similar thinkers to positions of power and influence. Ostracizing those you disagree can just as easily put you in a bubble of isolation, or an echo chamber, as them.
Not to mention that discussing opposing ideas improves understanding both by defending your views and by better understanding the why and origins of their ideas.
Let me paraphrase: Gen Z refuse to take any bullshit from deluded boomers.
I hope this guy’s company can’t adjust to reality & it’s eaten by a Gen-Z owned competitor.
I’m reading this thread comments and it seems that Gen Z has decided that it can’t be their social skills - it must be the other older generation that is flawed.
Interesting.
Also a lot of comments how older generations have character flaws that do not exist in their own generation.
Even more interesting.
I guess gen Z is just the best generation so far, according to themselves. :)
