Disgruntled progressive activists and organizations have embarked on a campaign to push voters to mark themselves “uncommitted” in protest of Biden’s stance on the Israel-Hamas War.

With 95% of the expected vote tabulated, 70.5% of voters backed Biden while 19.0% went uncommitted, according to a tabulation by The Associated Press.

In Minnesota, more than 45,000 marked themselves “uncommitted” — a number greater than the margin by which Hillary Clinton defeated Donald Trump in the state in 2016.

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    There’s nothing fear-mongering about choosing the better of two candidates.

    It’s how voting works.

    Your point is invalid anyway .

    If your 2016 fear-mongering is invalid, then it’s invalid.

    If we pretend your 2016 fear-mongering is valid, then it proves itself invalid by 2020.

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      In 2020 Biden actually tried appealing to voters with student loan forgiveness and abortion rights.

      But instead of trying to get that passed he’s now trying to give israel 15 Billion in bombs.

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        I agree that the biden administration should market their myriad beneficial achievements more, but just because the Israel-Ukraine war is the most salient global event right now, it doesn’t mean that you should ignore everything else his administration has done and the benefit of so many domestic and other foreign policies.

        Again, it is fair to be upset that he isn’t immediately breaking one of the longest and most important US active alliances in a few months and involving the US more directly in this war, and you may righteously denounce this particular policy, but his presidential candidacy encompasses that and all other issues.

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          Wow that’s really nuanced. Israel is really important to Imperialism indeed. If we just ignore Saudi and Egypt existing which also have US bases.

          Too bad some people draw a very red line at Genocide.

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            But they chose to wait for their entire lives that this genocide has been ongoing to draw that red line?

            They’ve only decided to draw that red line right before this election?

            Convenient timeline.

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              Yes the very moment israel is using starvation and as a weapon of war to commit Genocide while receiving weapons from Joe Biden.

              Everything I wrote above is all a giant conspiracy. Nothing is true there right? Stupid propaganda people against Genocide.

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                This genocide and all of its horrors, including starvation and weapons from israeli’s many international allies, has been ongoing on for decades.

                You’re catching the concluding chapter of an atrocity that has been going on for longer than most people’s lifetimes.

                It’s not a conspiracy. It’s history.

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                  I agree that it has been going on for decades but the death count of the current Genocide is higher than in the last 30 years combined. If Biden stops it now Trump can’t just “continue it”. Just like Trump didn’t let israel randomly Genocide the West Bank during his presidency.

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                    Maybe and* instead of but?

                    I understand why many people would care more about more people dying at one time, but your comment makes it sound like it’s perfectly understandable why people have been ignoring the average of a few hundred Palestinians being massacred per year for decades, with tens of thousands more being wounded, and it’s perfectly understandable to ignore that until they were all killed at once.

                    I don’t think it’s an understandable oversight nor should it be framed as one, there have been stories in the news about israeli genocide every few months every year.

                    Rather than implying the relative significance of Palestinian deaths, I would look at the American media spin on Israel and Palestine and the role of open journalism and information technology as the reason people are finally paying attention.

                    That’s a heavy statistic, can you provide the source? Thanks

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        I mean, he did try to do $500 billion in student loan forgiveness but was voted down by Congress (both House and Senate voted to repeal it) AND by the Supreme Court (6-3 vote). Since then he has incrementally forgiven student loans to the tune of over $133 billion. That’s roughly 8% of the total student loan debt (including active students and students who just graduated).

        So maybe don’t say moronic things like “but instead of trying to get that passed…”