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        8 months ago

        But the evidence says otherwise… it is regarded as an apartheid state by political scientists. Why do you refuse to admit the truth? Did you even read the link or did you lie when you said you change your mind based on evidence?

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          8 months ago

          This is what you sound like right now:

          But the evidence says the earth is flat… It is regarded as flat by people who say it’s flat. Why do you refuse to admit the truth if its flatness? Did you even blah blah blah…

          You understand South African Apartheid was a system of minority rule?

          When it’s like Israel, a system of majority rule, we call it democracy.

          Do you not understand that, or appreciate what that means? When the minority enacts positive law upon an unconsenting majority it is a violation of human rights. When the majority enacts positive law with popular consent–and not by the whim of some caliphate or immamate or monarch–its the peak of human achievement.

          That double standard you’re applying is why so many people consider it anti semitic to call Israel is an apartheid state.

          I think that if you click through and read the primary sources from Wikipedia, or if you do even a modicum of a review of the scholarly work on this, you will find that usually people making this argument are saying that Israel has some discriminatory laws which are like Apartheid. Obviously, some people (you) go further and say Israel is literally an apartheid state. And some people also say the earth is flat.

          E: Bold part is exactly what happens below…

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            Oh yeah, what about this then?

            Howard Friel writes that Tutu “views the conditions in the occupied Palestinian territories as resembling apartheid in South Africa.” BBC News reported in 2012 that Tutu “accused Israel of practicing apartheid in its policies towards Palestinians.”[325]

            Or this? https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/26/south-africa-calls-for-israels-proscription-as-apartheid-state

            I think what I will do is quote bits of it for you every day until you realize.

            I think the most pathetic part is that those are opinions of experts on this and they seem to overwhemlingly believe Israel is an apartheid state. But you keep comparig it to a group of idiot flat earthers. Making that connection in your head is probably to protect from shame/guilt.

            Whenever it’s Israel, your brain seems to shut off.

            By your logic, is south Africa being anti semitic?

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              Yes they are. It’s rote hypocrisy.

              I think you don’t recognize what sort of things are facts and what sort of things are opinions.

              How far did you go in school?

              Read the dude’s quote that you quoted.

              It “resembles apartheid.”

              It’s not apartheid though.

              Howard Friel writes that Tutu “views the conditions in the occupied Palestinian territories as resembling apartheid in South Africa.”

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                So when South Africa says Israel is an apartheid state, they’re just expressing an anti-Semitic opinion? Not based on any evidence? And all people who overwhelmingly agree are just also anti-Semitic? Can’t you see how this just makes Israel above criticism so it can continue its genocidal landgrabbing?

                Bud, I’m sorry to say that you have been tricked™.

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                    8 months ago

                    an opinion piece

                    Do you not see how dumb that was to say given it was NOT an opinion piece?

                    and how about running away from this one?