Nex Benedict died one day after a fight in a school bathroom. Their mother Sue Benedict tells Bevan Hurley that the gender fluid teenager endured more than a year of abuse simply for being who they were
    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
      341·
      9 months ago

      And their “gender” is whatever they want it to be so, yes they are.

      No.

      Their gender is not a choice.

      Do you think being gay is a choice as well?

      I mean this is an anecdote. And an exceptional one at that. I can show you a dozen women who look like men. Women like the one in the OP who was beaten to death in a women’s bathroom.

      I see, so it’s okay for trans people to use the bathroom of their gender as long as they don’t look like they’re trans.

      • helenslunch@feddit.nl
        241·
        9 months ago

        so it’s okay for trans people to use the bathroom of their gender as long as they don’t look like they’re trans.

        LOOOOLOLOL That was your argument, not mine.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
          252·
          9 months ago

          No it wasn’t. At all. I think trans people should use the bathroom of their gender period.

          But then I don’t think being trans is a choice.

          You didn’t answer my question- is being gay a choice?

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
              202·
              9 months ago

              Sorry… are you now saying that being trans is a choice because some people pretend to be trans? Also, how exactly do you take advantage of women by pretending to be trans?

              This is some weird TERF shit.

              • helenslunch@feddit.nl
                221·
                9 months ago

                You didn’t answer my question-What was your argument if not that women would be uncomfortable because he looked like a man? That’s some weird TERF shit.

                • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
                  201·
                  9 months ago

                  Women wouldn’t be uncomfortable because he looks like a man.

                  He is a man.

                  Women would be uncomfortable because a man would be forced to use their bathroom.

                  I’m not sure why this isn’t clear to you. Oh, wait, yes I do, because you think being trans is a choice, like so many bigots before you.

                • HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social
                  12·
                  9 months ago

                  Sorry, can you unpack exactly what you think being trans is, please? You’ve gestured in a couple of directions this thread, but I’d rather have a direct explicit answer than trying to infer it and possibly be wrong.

            • BreakDecks@lemmy.mlEnglish
              103·
              9 months ago

              No. But people don’t go around pretending to be gay to take advantage of women.

              Oh, you’re just a bog standard conspiratorial TERF. It’s all making sense now.

              • helenslunch@feddit.nl
                111·
                9 months ago

                Sure bud, just slap labels on people and ignore them. I suppose that’s much easier than having a conversation about protecting children.

        • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          32·
          9 months ago

          just dont go around pretending like bathroom rules got this kid killed.

          Had they been allowed to use the other bathroom they wouldn’t have been beaten to death by girls in the girls bathroom, would they?

          • helenslunch@feddit.nl
            28·
            9 months ago

            They were a trans girl. 🤦‍♂️ And they could have been beaten anywhere.

    • NarrativeBear@lemmy.world
      8·
      9 months ago

      Could we not just have gender neutral bathrooms? ie. A hallway/long room with 5 doors on each side and behind each of those doors you have a sink/toilet/urinal. Each door is actually a door from floor to ceiling.

      • helenslunch@feddit.nl
        110·
        9 months ago

        Sure! Just don’t pretend like doing so is somehow protecting trans people from bullying. Or that the opposite is not.

        • NarrativeBear@lemmy.world
          4·
          9 months ago

          Absolutely, no pretending here, bullying is a larger systemic issue that requires many different approaches to solve. It’s not a one size fits all solution in a sense and requires all of us as a society to work together.

          Just as there are many different types of bullies, there are many different vectors of bullying, such as in person, online, or indirect. Each would need a different approache to mitigate.