The DM was a DM asking us to change our no tankies policy and remove the fuck tankies banner as it was apparently upsetting hexbear users. Apparently tankies view the word tankie as a form of slur. The admin wants us to ally as a form of “left solidarity”

  • CoderKat@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    26
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Not to mention that this sub is unapologetically pro LGBT while practically every authoritarian government (including particularly those that tankies support) has been anti LGBT. eg, China prohibits same sex marriage and adoption, while forcing trans people to get permission from their family to transition (spoiler alert: they ain’t progressive).

    Democratic socialism with actual equality for all (which goes hand in hand with the root issue socialism is supposed to solve) makes sense and is reasonable. But that’s not what tankies support. They’re defined by support for authoritarian states that have nothing to do with equality except pretending that they care about it.

    • LaLiLuLuCo@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Or how LGBT relationships and “sissy-men” get censored out the wazzoo in popular Chinese Media and on social media.

      Fun fact my mainland Chinese friends started saying “this humiliates China” without any other context on their social media because they weren’t even allowed to say they were lonely during lock downs due to censors.

      • CoderKat@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        That’s great. Good for them. Personally, I’m a lot more amenable to supporting Cuba. While certainly still deeply imperfect, I see Cuba as largely the victim of American bullshit sanctions.

        But the fact that Cuba is better doesn’t change the fact that tankies regularly support China specifically. If you support two things, with one being good and one being bad, you’re still supporting a bad thing. So I don’t think your comment justifies support for China.

      • kay@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        1 year ago

        As opposed to the democratic political system in china I assume? I’m so fucking sick of American “leftists” simping for the boots they haven’t felt.

    • BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      So should we who practice anarchism not be allowed because we don’t believe in Demsoc rhetoric? To me, most proposed demsoc systems would still be inherently authoritarian, as all states are. Especially by so empowering a state by giving it ownership of property instead of collective and direct control by the population.

      Am I not allowed because I think electoral politics are inherently anti-democratic and states serve primarily to create and protect the rich from the poor?

      Your appeal to democratic socialism as if it were common sense is concerning, because it reflects a lack of will to even entertain other perspectives.