• ashenblood@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    declaring a group of people don’t deserve to live

    I’m sure if anyone said that, they would rightly get banned. My question is why any disagreement or criticism is interpreted as a declaration of war?

    LGBTQ people disagree vehemently amongst themselves about nearly every aspect of the LGBTQ experience. It’s not a topic that is well understood by anyone, not even people who are a part of it.

    Religion and Work are every bit as important as sexual identity, if not more so for many people. Christianity isn’t Star Trek (at least not in the minds of Christians), yet we would consider a Christian who responded to honest criticism of their religion with hostility to be a narrow-minded fool at best, a dangerous zealot at worst.

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      Obviously there are debates going on in queer circles about politics and identity. None of those debates ask anything even remotely like “do queer people actually exist and if so do they deserve the same rights as other people?” That is the question conservatives seek to ask and the reason they want “free speech” on these platforms.

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        1 year ago

        “do queer people actually exist and if so do they deserve the same rights as other people?”

        I see people claiming that’s occurring far more often than I see it occurring. Maybe because the free speech sites I go on aren’t just using as a shield for far right wing beliefs.

        I also see plenty of people claiming that someone is denying them the right to exist for simply asking questions that aren’t supportive. Yes, there are the assholes “just asking questions” in bad faith, but just as in the human body an overactive immune system causes more damage than it protects from.

        The frequent immediate assumption of bad faith that seems to be commonly demonstrated by LGBT+ and allies when interacting with questioning viewpoints doesn’t help the cause.

        As others have pointed out, that sort of attitude from religious people would have them labelled zealots. Why is this suddenly acceptable when it comes to the often far more confusing and less accessible topic of sexuality and dysphoria?

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          1 year ago

          I think maybe you should ask why people have no patience for just asking the Jewish question, or wondering why we don’t talk about how great it was for Black people to be slaves. Even if you are asking questions in good faith, the questions themselves can have flawed premises.

          Generally public forums are not a great place to just ask questions, especially about sensitive subjects. Asking the people in question in their own forums in a respectful way will get you much further if you truly have questions that you are seeking the answers to.

      • Whirlybird@aussie.zone
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        1 year ago

        None of those debates ask anything even remotely like “do queer people actually exist and if so do they deserve the same rights as other people?”

        No “conservatives” have ever asked “do queer people actually exist and if so do they deserve the same rights as other people?” though.

        I’ll ask you and I hope you can give me an answer since no one else has ever been able to - what human rights do trans people NOT have?