Denver police have arrested a 13-year-old boy accused of fatally shooting a man whose leg was blocking the aisle on a public bus.

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    Yes it does. People under 18 getting hold of firearms and behaving like idiots with them is something that gets reported on frequently in the US and pretty much the US alone.

    But sure, name all these other places where this happens on a regular basis.

    E: lmao. Straigh up lies in the retort. Asia and Africa don’t have gin problems. Even the most violent place in Africa has a gun violence rate of barely over half of the US’s. Fair enough on central America.

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      Mexico? Except guess where Mexico gets most of their illegal firearms from…

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        You literally made that up. It’s the US and a few unstable countries in South America.

        South Africa, one of the highest homicide rate countries in the world, with a murder rate 6.5x higher than the US, has half the gun homicide rate of the US.

        India has has 1 gun homicide per 100k. The US has 11 per 100k.

        But yeah. Keep telling us how everywhere outside of Europe and Australia is like this. It’s BS.

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        That’s absolutely not true. Data shows the only countries with higher gun deaths per capita than the US are all central and parts of South America. E.g., India’s per capita gun death rate is 0.56 vs 4.12 in the US.

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        Places that report news in English or are currently controversial to English speaking news.

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          Why are only English-speaking countries relevant?

          But fine, Sudan. South Sudan. South Africa. Liberia. Sierra Leone. Ghana. Nigeria. Jamaica.

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      You’re just clutching your pearls thinking “Children with guns in polite society? Good heavens!!!”

      Stop this nonsense. You only hear about the USA because you are on USA focused social media and you can’t speak any language used in Asia, Africa, or South America where they have 13 year olds with machine guns.

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        Lmao how America-brained do you have to be to say that thinking 13 year olds having guns is a bad thing is “pearl clutching”

        No. 13 year olds should not have guns.

        And I’m from Asia you nitwit. I speak a couple of Asian languages, as well as a couple of European ones, such as the one I’m speaking now.

        Asia does not have a gun problem. Africa does not have a gun problem. You made that up and tbh it just sounds like racist dog whistle - “those uncivilised darkies and slit-eyes are violent savages! Their children have machine guns! No I don’t have any proof, don’t ask!”

        South America yeah, particularly Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia. And so does the US. Forgive me for having higher expectations of the highest GDP country in the world than I do of fucking Venezuela.

        Children should not have tools designed expressly for quick and easy murder. If you think otherwise, cool. Have a good think about it next time you’re on the bus and a child shoots you when you do something to mildly inconvenience him.

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            I didn’t.

            And the facts I gave you spoke for themselves. Your argument practically mocks itself.

            Come on. Where’s your evidence of Asia and Africa having gin problems? Of kids with machine guns?

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                Gotta give you credit, it was very clever of you to link to an article without any real stats, but which makes it sound really rife.

                It was a good try, but no.

                United States: 11 gun deaths per 100k.

                South Africa: 6 gun deaths per 100k.

                South Africa is the most violent place in Africa by far, and isn’t representative of Africa at all, and still has a gun homicide rate that’s roughly half of the US.

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                  So if there isn’t a chart it must be fake news? Okay boomer.

                  I think our interactions have come to a conclusion on this one.

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                    Why are you putting words in my mouth?

                    You posted an article with no real stats, and you cherrypicked one of the most violent countries on the planet.

                    I provided real stats to compare them and still the US’s rate was almost twice as high!

                    I don’t think you understand what the “ok boomer” meme is.

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          What are their parameters though? Rwanda had a pretty violent genocide where 800k+ people died. I’m sure most of that was gun violence. Does that not count? Gaza is a hotbed for gun violence.

          Anyone can find statistics to argue their point.

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            I can’t believe France’s gun homicide rate doesn’t even include all the shootings in WW1 😡😡😡

            These stats are unamerican commie propaganda 😡😡😡

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              Be sure to scroll my entire profile and make comments. I’m very interested in your opinions.

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                Nice deflection. Completely ignoring the comment.

                And no thanks, you don’t seem particularly interesting. Just a run-of-the-mill US conservative. They’re ten a penny.

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                  Nice try calling me a conservative. Everyone who challenges you on your views must be a conservative.

                  I understand, I’ve got you in my “Must be MAGA” category too.

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                    Talks usual conservative talking points

                    Casually uses racist dog whistle against Asians and Africans

                    Has extensive post history in a sub called “conservative”

                    “Nice try calling me conservative” 🤡

                    And again dodging the actual content of my reply. Interesting.

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                    I mean, you’re giving us the standard American Exceptionalist rigamarole. If conservative doesn’t describe you, maybe reflect on the kinds of things that you’re saying that would convince people otherwise.

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            We’re counting state violence now? Are you sure you want to include that statistic in defense of America? Our military has a 7-figure body count so far for the 21st century…

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        Really only South America (actually mostly central America and Brazil) and South Africa, Mali and Somalia fit into that stereotype. The rest of Africa and all of Asia (except Thailand, which is still significantly lower than the US) have very low rates of gun violence.