More video and eyewitness info on Al Jazeera so far

Also reported on Common Dreams and Middle East Eye.

I haven’t found any reports of any independent investigations yet, hopefully they are underway

  • HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Can I ask you to update your original comment saying this video was made before this article came out, related to a different event at an unknown time, and has been edited?

    I don’t know the name of the logical mistake, but saying they don’t report Israel lies is a falicy. They don’t need to state this is true, they need to factually state this is the viewpoint of the Israeli government, this is their response to this attack. Its not their job to tell us who is right and not, its their job to state both sides of the arguements and report on facts.

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        9 months ago

        Nope - accurate reporting does. Like I wouldn’t trust hamas to comment on Israel - its the point of independent journalism to give both sides, not take sides.

        The thing I’ve learned most over this conflict is how much of a godsend BBC is - ban emotive language, report both sides, only send out evidence that is backed.

        Thanks for the update as well. I’m trying to not take sides but can only do it when information is out there.

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            9 months ago

            God, Middle East Eye is worse - they actively provide a biased arguement and have provided 0 Israel viewpoint and refuse to discuss who owns it. Their reviews discuss how they use manipulative language to push viewpoints and pass over any information counter to their agenda.

            Had a look at the clip (well, first minute). Does this sound like a balanced view point to you.

            • YouTuber

            • listed outrage and disgusted before showing the clip i.e told you how to react

            • mentioned issues with screen recording from BBC (nothing to do with the the clip, just there so you already question them)

            • was already at an rally with this viewpoint before the information came up.

            • completely loaded with emotive words and reactions

            Vs BBC clip

            • names, places

            • fact (visited, rally, support, Hamas designated terrorist organization)

            • clear, non emotive language.

            • the only issue is calling it pro Hamas, which is an understandable conclusion as Hamas is the Palestine government. Who is responsiblefor the welfare of Palestine citizens - their government. Its no different than calling supporting American military ops pro-Biden.

            If you go up to my eairler comment MEE is horrific fir accuracy and bias

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              9 months ago

              Are you calling all Palestinians Hamas?

              As Israel pounds Gaza, BBC journalists accuse broadcaster of bias

              In the latest newsroom fallout over the war, BBC journalists say the corporation is failing to humanise Palestinians.

              In a 2,300-word letter written to Al Jazeera by eight UK-based journalists employed by the corporation, the BBC is also said to be guilty of a “double standard in how civilians are seen”, given that it is “unflinching” in its reporting of alleged Russian war crimes in Ukraine.

              “The BBC has failed to accurately tell this story – through omission and lack of critical engagement with Israel’s claims – and it has therefore failed to help the public engage with and understand the human rights abuses unfolding in Gaza,” the letter reads. “Thousands of Palestinians have been killed since October 7. When will the number be high enough for our editorial stance to change?”

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              9 months ago

              Down votes here are extremely telling about how pro Palestinian supporters are really just anti Jew.