He signed an executive order on Thursday, saying violence had reached “intolerable levels”.

The sanctions will block the individuals from accessing all US property and other assets.

Violence in the West Bank has spiked since Hamas’s 7 October attack on Israel.

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    Yeah, the benefit of the slow and steady approach is for Americans, not for Palestinians.

    We have to remember, those people aren’t our friends. They’re known to chant “Death to America”. They include the kind of terrorists who would commit the October 7th attacks, and most Palestinians support that kind of terrorism.

    We want to stop the genocide while keeping Israel as an ally against both terrorism and Iran, who is currently attacking any Western shipping through the Suez Canal.

    I think we have a lot more room to do that, absolutely. It’s a bad situation, and we have to understand our role in it. But our role can certainly be less hard-lined than supporting genocide.

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      They’re not our friends? It’s the other way around. We’ve been helping Israel kill them and take their land for decades and decades. We’re on Israel’s side of every peace talk, pressuring Palestine to take horrible deals that isolates them and keeps them separated, covering Isreal when the UN tries to censure them for human rights violations and war crimes, selling them the bombs and weapons they use to kill Palestinian children and families, bomb their neighborhoods and hospitals, pretend we give a shit with a token of humanitarian aid that hasn’t helped the bare minimum of calories they get, the majority of their water being poison, the extremely high unemployment rate, the constant buzzing sound of drones overhead that increases their stress and ruins their sleep, or the general oppressive apartheid state they live under and always while at the same time continuing to sell the tools of murder and destruction to Israel.

      Of course they’re not our friends after all that. And of course after all that they are gong to do an armed struggle. An attack the scale of October 7th has only happened once, and it’s the result of years of the deaths being way higher on the Palestinian side and there being nothing they can do about it. October 7th is the only time Hamas has barely touched Israel. Meanwhile, Israel has been killing all Palestinians (including civilians, not just Hamas) disproportionately for years and no one has done or said anything on their behalf. Even their peaceful marches lead to them dying or losing limbs and no other change. So what do you expect them to do? Just do the nice thing for us and die quietly? Cozy up to their oppressors? Holding Hamas against Palestine is like holding the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising against all Jews because " clearly they practice violence".

      I appreciate what you’re saying about genocide bad, this is just all a response to the comment about them not being our friends. They would be huge friends of ours if we helped them get equal rights or integrate into a one state solution, but the US has never been as interested in that as they are helping Israel complete their mission of settler colonialism.

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        They would be huge friends of ours if

        That’s idealistic. You think if we just do the right thing now that they’ll forgive the past 75 years?

        Our government’s primary interest is protecting Americans. These politicians know that if they allow a 9/11 style attack, the same people who are calling for peace now will be calling for those politicians heads.

        I too wish we could just all get along. It’s understandable that they want revenge. But as long as we’re expecting revenge, we’re going to do our best to make sure it can’t happen. And that’s oppressive and wrong. But I don’t know how palatable just allowing Israel to be wiped off the map in the name of righteousness is either.

        There are no good guys here. I wish I could see a path to peace, but I don’t.

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      We have to remember, those people aren’t our friends. They’re known to chant “Death to America”.

      There are Americans who yell almost the same thing to other Americans, ie: anti-abortionists, anti-queer, racists, neo-nazis, Proud Boys, the kind of people who supported and engaged in insurrection, etc etc etc. They may use different words but the intent is identical.

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      those people aren’t our friends. They’re known to chant “Death to America”. They include the kind of terrorists who would commit the October 7th attacks, and most Palestinians support that kind of terrorism.

      Why do you think that is?

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        Does it matter? Should we not care about being attacked because they have a reason?